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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: IvyLeague] #656330
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
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I would appreciate it if someone could enlighten us a little bit about Buffalo.


It's not considered a viable family anymore. Hasn't really been considered such since the 1990's. It was then that Laborers Local 210 was put under oversight and later declared free of organized crime influence in 2006. The cases in recent years have showed more remnants of a family that once was. Some guys getting popped for this or that, here or there, not much cohesion. In my opinion, they seem comparable to Detroit.


How many guys are still out there?


"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black

How many guys are still out there?


Total made members? Maybe a couple dozen. But that's probably due to it being in the northeast as much as anything.


Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #656352
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What's Marley referring to when he sings " Buffalo Solider, Deadlock Rhasta


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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: IvyLeague] #656354
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black

How many guys are still out there?


Total made members? Maybe a couple dozen. But that's probably due to it being in the northeast as much as anything.


And how many do you think are still "active"?


"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Sonny_Black] #656358
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black


And how many do you think are still "active"?


I really have no idea. All I know is what I said. The feds no longer list them as a viable family. And recent cases over the past decade don't show a very cohesive organization.


Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #656360
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Who exactly is/was Leonard Falzone?


"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Nicholas] #656367
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Originally Posted By: Nicholas
Who exactly is/was Leonard Falzone?


He was the Todaros' consigliere. You usually hear that he is now the "boss" of what's left. I believe he was a labor racketeer.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #656408
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Njboy...why the post edit?? Lol. cornball...ciao! Glad others enjoyed cleves post as well

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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: spmob] #656470
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What post edit shitface? You need to read posts a little slower... if the guy was really in his upper 80's he wouldn't even know how to use a lap top or computer for that matter. Especially an old Italian at that.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: NJBoy55] #656471
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Originally Posted By: NJBoy55
What post edit shitface?


You REALLY have to learn to play nicely here. There's no cause for a reply like that.


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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #656505
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Leadership was disbanded roughly after 1990. Once allie died, and we all went to prison, there were a handful of us still on the street, what was left, delmonti essentially helped the FBI to put their foot on our neck throughout the 90's. Luz went to prison around 2002, and since then it went downhill fast. We decided to run what was left as as individuals.

NJboy, i dont believe you even deserve a reply, but based on your last post i think i have to acknowledge the fact that you are indeed a boy. No man responds in such an immature and inconsiderate fashion.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #656512
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My friends from Cleveland told me to tell you "If you are a so called mobster from Cleveland, why do the blacks run the streets there now?" Yes, I'm a young man and don't appreciate being threatened in messages either. You also threatened Muk before over his Cleveland picture chart, too. That's what boys do like what you say I am. Anyway, I'm done on this thread and with you. By the way us youngsters run the show these days pal.

Nice pm you sent me - "I'd kill you you fucking punk ass kid." It doesn't scare me, though.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: NJBoy55] #656527
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OK... enough of this shit.

CleveItalia is taking a week's vacation and NJBoy is packed for two weeks (he's done this before).

You guys will learn, one way or another, to stop this childish shit with the name-calling. You WILL learn, or you won't ever post here again.


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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #656576
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I know the board rules, i read them, but SC you just banned me for no reason. First of all, the "ill kill you" PM doesnt exist because i never sent that kid a PM. As a moderator you should be able to see that. Second of all, that doesn't even sound like something i would ever say to anyone, especially not the internet. I in no way shape or form called him a "name",

this kid is deceitful, he made up a fake PM that i "supposedly" sent him, if that is the case, i want you to do the honorable thing and to "print screen the PM message i supposedly sent you and email to SC.

I have no reason that i should be banned and I can't believe this kid actually is THAT bored that he has resorted to these measures.

SC, i know you have a big job to do, but look at that kids posts and look at mine. Who is more likely to send a PM that says "Ill kill you"? You know this kid is lieing and i should get my full board privliges back.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #656579
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I also don't know what picture chart you're refering to. I dont know who "Muk" is, and i dont know what you're talking about. COULD YOU PLEASE REFERENCE THE POST, THE DATE, AND TIME, so that we can all see what it is that i said. Thank you!

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Cleveitalia1] #656583
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Originally Posted By: Cleveitalia1
I know the board rules, i read them, but SC you just banned me for no reason.


You were suspended for flaming remarks you made. Arguing a moderator's decision in public is a bannable offense as well. Opening a second account is also a bannable offense.

In the meantime, we'll investigate this stuff and come to some decision about the first offense, and I'm warning you to just sit tight and wait for that decision.


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Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #656625
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i believe i'll take a guess and say you probaly had a uncle or dad who was around in the golden era out there and you dont want to say who which is understandable. wat iread italians took the white flight out of town in the 70tys. whats it 90 percent black all the cities in ohio are black like that. mafia cant compete wit them like in boston philly nyc. but doesnt john gottis daughters husband run a junk yard out there, he's a made gambino he probaly shelved. any way thaks for sharing it was like that poster vinny gourgeous he was spot on on all the stuff in boston.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: pmac] #656645
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Originally Posted By: pmac
whats it 90 percent black all the cities in ohio are black like that. mafia cant compete wit them like in boston philly nyc.


East side of the core city is mostly black. It's one of the most "segregated" cities in America (voluntarily so; people have just settled in together with people like themselves).

Anyway, it's a mistake to judge Cleveland by its core city alone as it's inner ring of suburbs are just about as urban as the core city - the core city (it's about 60% black) is actually quite small geographically, with just under 400,000 people. The metro area, which is mostly urban, is about five times that. (six if you count Akron; some people do, but I think it's too set off to count as part of "Greater Cleveland").

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Ivan] #656656
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Hey cleveitalia,

I heard from some good sources that Cleveland has more than 8 active guys there are more guys i heard of they go as follows,

Edwardo Angelucci
Sam Lucarelli Sr
Sam Lucarelli Jr
Jason Lucarelli
John Sirna

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Scalish] #656657
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By the way I just wanted to say what's up i am new here.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Scalish] #656679
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who is edwardo?

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: strococs] #656721
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I heard he is or was a captain in Cleveland.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Scalish] #656739
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I just find it interesting he could that under the radar not to be posted about before but it is very possible.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: strococs] #657913
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i just have to say in my opinion has changed cleveitalia is full of hot air.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: Ivan] #657914
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Originally Posted By: Ivan
Originally Posted By: pmac
whats it 90 percent black all the cities in ohio are black like that. mafia cant compete wit them like in boston philly nyc.


East side of the core city is mostly black. It's one of the most "segregated" cities in America (voluntarily so; people have just settled in together with people like themselves).

Anyway, it's a mistake to judge Cleveland by its core city alone as it's inner ring of suburbs are just about as urban as the core city - the core city (it's about 60% black) is actually quite small geographically, with just under 400,000 people. The metro area, which is mostly urban, is about five times that. (six if you count Akron; some people do, but I think it's too set off to count as part of "Greater Cleveland").


It's a wonder some of the illegal gambling rackets are still going even with the new legal casino its funny to me how much people really love to gamble.

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: CleveItalia] #657915
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I still don't get how the informant Ray Frieto was able to cooperate against Cleavland and then opens shop in Erie PA and operates a large bookmaking operation for years ! Any thoughts ?

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Well he already testified what would be the point of the new regime to whack ray? they were trying to rebuild in a sense whacking ray would of only bring on more heat. thats the only reason i can see

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What about other families ? I mean the guy brought down an entire family ,and Everyone knew ! We are talking the 80's !

Re: The truth about Cleveland [Re: NJBoy55] #658057
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Originally Posted By: NJBoy55
My friends from Cleveland told me to tell you "If you are a so called mobster from Cleveland, why do the blacks run the streets there now?" Yes, I'm a young man and don't appreciate being threatened in messages either. You also threatened Muk before over his Cleveland picture chart, too. That's what boys do like what you say I am. Anyway, I'm done on this thread and with you. By the way us youngsters run the show these days pal.

Nice pm you sent me - "I'd kill you you fucking punk ass kid." It doesn't scare me, though.

The blacks un the streets in very town n the countryy, along with themexicans. Do you expect 80 year old men to be out on the street?

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Originally Posted By: Boardwalkguy
What about other families ? I mean the guy brought down an entire family ,and Everyone knew ! We are talking the 80's !


Why would they want the heat ?


jimmy fratiano was a bigger problem and nobody did shit to him.

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