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Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #655831
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Here is the aforementioned picture, you see a few Bonanno heavyweights including a young Basciano


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Here is the aforementioned picture, you see a few Bonanno heavyweights including a young Basciano


Yes. For the record, the males depicted are (standing from left to right):
Trinchera´s brother (can´t remember his name right now), Basciano and Philip Giaccone.
Seated (from left to right):
Joseph Benanti, Dom Trinchera, "JB" Indelicato, Frank Lino and Anthony Bruno Indelicato.
These guys were top members of a faction within the Bonanno Family and the Sicilians were alligned with them and they all made tons of money with the heroin. Later on, the Sicilans switched sides and supported boss Philip Rastelli in the conflict with the three Bonanno captains. (Trinchera, Giaccone and Sonny Red.)

Basciano wasn´t made at the time and I believe Trinchera´s brother was never made.

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Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #655933
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Originally Posted By: VinnyGorgeous
rank your top five in o.c...the results should be interesting. don't be ashamed to enjoy this great thread of mine.

1. Crazy Joe Gallo
2. Bugsy Siegel
3. Sonny Franzese
4. Carmine Galante
5. Albert Anastasia


1. Sal Graffignino
2. Eddie Cummiskey
3. Bobby Ramirez aka 'Spanish Red'
4. Tommy Pappadia
5. Anthony Baratta

Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #655954
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What are some of Baratta's exploits?

Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #655957
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Baratta is currently in a halfway house and gets out Sept 25th.


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Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: Tyler_Durden] #655960
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Originally Posted By: Tyler_Durden
What are some of Baratta's exploits?


You know what a chainsaw is? So does he...

JIGGS

Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #655963
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Why nobody mentions Sicilian Mafia guys who are much more tougher than americans...


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Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: Strax] #655967
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Originally Posted By: Strax
Why nobody mentions Sicilian Mafia guys who are much more tougher than americans...

Why, is the water in Sicily different? rolleyes

In general the Sicilians have a higher body count than he Americans but that can be explained by two things:
-LE always was and always will be better in the US
-there are a hell of alot more mafiosi in Sicily(and Italy in general) than the US so just by pure numbers the body counts are going to be higher.

When you reach a certain level(multiple homicides, chopping bodies, torture etc.) the numbers don't really matter. Do you think a guy who did 50 murders is twice as tough as someone who did "only" 25?

Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #655970
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Bugsy all the way

Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: Tyler_Durden] #655976
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I agree with Tyler Durden.

Depends on your definition of tough. If you're looking at purely wanton disregard for human life and devoid of all human decency, I guess Sicilians may take it. So could random street toughs in Detroit and Chicago.
But personally, I think there are plenty of cowards who can pull a trigger.
Don't get me wrong, I know we are talking about mafiosi so moral bankruptcy is essentially a given, but when we are talking about tough, I vote for Danny The Irishman Greene


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Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: Strax] #655994
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Originally Posted By: Strax
Why nobody mentions Sicilian Mafia guys who are much more tougher than americans...


Simply because most people on here don't know any, and the ones they do know are the ones whose names have been repeated endlessly, ie Provenzano, Riina.


La madre degli idioti e' sempre incinta.

Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #655995
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In South Phila I'd give props to Joe Stafa for getting shot in the face and opening a pizza shop lol


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I was reading about Carlos Marcello today. He and his brother walked 3 days through the jungle with no water when deported to Guatemala, then he threatened to kill the president on tape. He also beat a guy to death and buried him in the backyard of one of his houses. Punched an FBI agent for sleeping with his brother's wife as well. Not the toughest motherfucker out there, but not bad for a mafioso elder statesman.

I think Galante might actually deserve the overall title.

Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: J_BIGGS] #656025
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Originally Posted By: J_BIGGS
Originally Posted By: Tyler_Durden
What are some of Baratta's exploits?


You know what a chainsaw is? So does he...

JIGGS

o lord your over here now too......

Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: danielperrygin] #656029
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Originally Posted By: danielperrygin
Originally Posted By: J_BIGGS
Originally Posted By: Tyler_Durden
What are some of Baratta's exploits?


You know what a chainsaw is? So does he...

JIGGS


o lord your over here now too......


Well whaddaya know? If it isn't the DPG. How's ya balls?

ps-I thought you was an atheist?... ohwell

Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: carmela] #656031
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Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: Strax
Why nobody mentions Sicilian Mafia guys who are much more tougher than americans...


Simply because most people on here don't know any, and the ones they do know are the ones whose names have been repeated endlessly, ie Provenzano, Riina.


Is this who I think it is?... smile

Salve Signora Tagliafaccia! Come sta? Vi ricordate di JIGGS?...

JIGGS

Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: J_BIGGS] #656037
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Originally Posted By: J_BIGGS
Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: Strax
Why nobody mentions Sicilian Mafia guys who are much more tougher than americans...


Simply because most people on here don't know any, and the ones they do know are the ones whose names have been repeated endlessly, ie Provenzano, Riina.


Is this who I think it is?... smile

Salve Signora Tagliafaccia! Come sta? Vi ricordate di JIGGS?...

JIGGS


Ciao Sr. Jiggsy. Si Si, iu ricordi.


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Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #656121
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If you saw him you would walk across the street just stay away from him pure killer and tough as nails just did not care about who or where if you had him looking for you it was a better idea to vacate then try to shoot it out with him

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Originally Posted By: Ghost
The ice man
If you saw him you would walk across the street just stay away from him pure killer and tough as nails just did not care about who or where if you had him looking for you it was a better idea to vacate then try to shoot it out with him


You're joking, right?


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Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: BarrettM] #656131
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[quote=BarrettM]I was reading about Carlos Marcello today. He and his brother walked 3 days through the jungle with no water when deported to Guatemala, then he threatened to kill the president on tape. He also beat a guy to death and buried him in the backyard of one of his houses. Punched an FBI agent for sleeping with his brother's wife as well. Not the toughest motherfucker out there, but not bad for a mafioso elder statesman.

I think Galante might actually deserve the overall title. [/quote
I remember them mentioning him being deported in the mobsters episode...What book are you reading>?


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Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: tt120] #681596
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Originally Posted By: tt120

Nicky Corozzo - Went away on a pair of murders he (allegedly) had nothing to do with so a bunch of guys could stay out or cop to light plea deals.

Could somebody provide more details please? What was the evidence against Corozzo and why is he thought to not being involved in these particular murders?


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Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #681617
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no,but hes right. nicky took 'one for the team'.

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The toughest motherf***er is likely to be some guy nobody has ever heard of. It's usually the guys with a little bit of everything that make it to the top; the toughest guy is probably someone who was exceptionally tough but lacking in other key areas which would have prevented his rise to the top, so to speak!

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Carmine Galante. Everybody feared him.

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was it the boot who had a furnace in his basement he liked to feed guys into?

toughest? oneil,mickey p.,j.bull, the horse,the carnegs,punchy,gaspipe,pitera,big joe,joe yack,jerry lang, wild bill,paulie zac, paul vario,louie ha,tony green,allie m, 'lady' santoro,angelo d, rocco dallesso,of coarse scarpa,allie p,joel waverly,the little guy,joe watts,jackie d, t.g.,joe butch,big dom,sally 'vaughn', tommy shots,greg depalma,piney,'monk','the hat',...'big e',jerry chilli,.......thats just brooklyn guys.lol.

asking me to put them in order?couldnt do it.

and gravano couldnt hold any of those guys jock straps.

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Who is "The Boot", sit?

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richie biordia. [total guess on the last name]. jersey guy with the westside crew.

Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #681692
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definatly badr hari. not a traditional gangster, he's a k-1 kickboxer with extensive connections in the dutch underworld to some of the bigtime players. cocaine trafficking, extortions, and multiple assaults are just a few of the things he's been involved with. video is best watched on mute lol


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Re: The toughest motherf***er [Re: gamms] #681706
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Originally Posted By: sitonmyface11
was it the boot who had a furnace in his basement he liked to feed guys into?

toughest? oneil,mickey p.,j.bull, the horse,the carnegs,punchy,gaspipe,pitera,big joe,joe yack,jerry lang, wild bill,paulie zac, paul vario,louie ha,tony green,allie m, 'lady' santoro,angelo d, rocco dallesso,of coarse scarpa,allie p,joel waverly,the little guy,joe watts,jackie d, t.g.,joe butch,big dom,sally 'vaughn', tommy shots,greg depalma,piney,'monk','the hat',...'big e',jerry chilli,.......thats just brooklyn guys.lol.

asking me to put them in order?couldnt do it.

and gravano couldnt hold any of those guys jock straps.



T.g.?? Are you referring to graziano? If you're not sorry for the lack of knowledge.. And just wondering.. When you say "tough" are we talking guys who have good hands and won't hesitate to actually fight someone? Or are we talking just crazy fucks who will murder you? I know there's tons of muderers in the life.. I've always been more interested in who the guys were who were street fight tough.

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dsbaloo, i mean 'gangsters' who are tough. if i was to just say 'tough' guys in general...id be typing all night. some guys [junior gotti for example] are big, toned, juiced up, and there only tough with a crew or a name behind them.or stripes on there sleeves. or [worse] with 'whiskey muscles'. a real tough guy stands his ground, whether hes going to get his ass beat or not. ive never been able to say ive accomplished much in my life but ive stood my ground when i 'needed to'.

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