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Re: Corleone chain of command
#6551
02/03/04 10:33 AM
02/03/04 10:33 AM
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Cross De Lena
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Since the Fed's roster was wrong, how about some opinions from the gallery on the real heirarchy?
"...And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee." - Jules' version of Ezekiel 25:17
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Re: Corleone chain of command
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02/27/04 08:54 PM
02/27/04 08:54 PM
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Posts: 4,512 Right here, but I'd rather be ...
long_lost_corleone
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I'm not really but i know Frank Pantangelli was Capo.
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: Corleone chain of command
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02/27/04 11:25 PM
02/27/04 11:25 PM
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EnzoBaker
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Pentangeli was capo of the regime formerly headed by Clemenza. (Remember, Pentangeli and Clemenza are in fact the same character with only some minor differences.)
Also, Clemenza's death is quite recent at the beginning of GF II -- Pentangeli is still wearing his black mourning arm band, and he breaks into tears when somebody starts talking about Clemenza's death, implying it was very recent.
The regime formerly headed by Tessio, I would guess, would have been taken over by Neri.
Hagen was very specifically kept out of most of the "family" operations and restricted to dealing with legal and political connections.
This was to protect him legally (so he could say, truthfully, he was not involved in normal 'gang' operations) and also isolate him from the inter-family vendettas and rivalries, both in the Corleone family and between the rival families.
Thus, when the hit attempt is made on Michael, he knows Hagen is not allied with any of the internal groups (Pentangeli/Roth, etc.) and can hand over authority to him safely.
As far as Fredo is concerned, the Feds just have it wrong. He doesn't really have any authority over anybody. He might be allowed to give orders in some situations, but most likely any orders he gave would have to be OKd by somebody like Hagen or Neri or even Michael himself.
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Re: Corleone chain of command
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02/28/04 03:48 PM
02/28/04 03:48 PM
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I always assumed Hagen was Consigleire to Michael in G2.
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Re: Corleone chain of command
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03/01/04 10:45 AM
03/01/04 10:45 AM
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Bella Mafia UK
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Originally posted by The Sicilian: i think Fredo might have been given the title of underboss by Michael because of who he is...fredo had no REAL power but its just his title...like prince charles...i mean hes not really in charge of the uk... Actually Prince Charles is heir to the throne, which means he will be King when the Queen dies. Its not a mickey mouse title.
...there's people who would pay a lot of money for that information. But then your daughter would lose a father..instead of gaining a husband.
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Re: Corleone chain of command
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03/01/04 03:11 PM
03/01/04 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by The Sicilian: i think Fredo might have been given the title of underboss by Michael because of who he is...fredo had no REAL power but its just his title...like prince charles...i mean hes not really in charge of the uk... First post by a frequent lurker. Love the boards. Could Fredo have been considered a Consigilere of sorts to Michael? Since Tom had the title taken away to protect himself, certainly no one else would have acted in that capacity. And a Consigilere is someone who, while typically having a great deal of respect, has no real power of his own to exercise. Michael probably would have wanted his older brother to be respected and honored, to feel like as much of a big shot as possible. Yet, Michael knew not to give him enough power to do any damage. It would be quite a balancing act, but it's not unthinkable that Fredo was actually Michael's Consigilere, in title at least. This is probably more likely than him being underboss at least.
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