Yeah I remember that incident in early July of 87 they were all on the corner hanging getting ready to hit the shore for the 4th and when the FBI nabbed them Ligambi either swung at the agent or something and apparantley Philip Narducci said to the agent something to the the fact of ''I can't believe he just did that''For some reason I can't picture him running a car wash but he managed one on Oregon Ave. for years.i think he actually showed up for that one.