Originally Posted By: Nicholas
That chart makes the family look fucking massive


And that's because it probably includes every Tom, Dick, and Harry who's ever had some contact with the Outfit in any way. As I've mentioned before, it's usually up to the local SAC to estimate the number of associates. And that's going to depend on how they define an associate.

Originally Posted By: Antonio
Really only 30 made men and 100 associates? That just seems a little strange because not even the Philadelphia Mafia was that small back in the day and the Chicago outfit was much bigger than the Philadelphia Mafia. Is it safe to say that around 40 made members are there, it would make sense as a Capo or "capodecina" would have about 10 soldiers each. Along with that 100 associates just doesn't seem like enough to cover a big city like Chicago with illegal gambling, Loan Sharking and extortion operations.

Not to mention that Chart I swear had an Indianapolis connection as well.


The modern day Outfit is a much smaller and more streamlined organization than it once was. In fact, in terms of both size and activity, it's very similar to Philadelphia. Much more so than being comparable to any of the NY families.

In 2007, the FBI specifically cited 28 "made" members. Of course, in Chicago you do have guys who have never gone through the ceremony - and so are not technically "made" - but who have membership status. A guy like Joey Lombardo, for instance.

In any event, taking members (both formally made or otherwise), as well as associates, it's a total manpower of about 150. Which is what the estimates of the New England and Philadelphia families are currently at.


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