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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: Ted]
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06/28/12 07:27 PM
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I've heard conflicting reports on whether the Nicky Skins tapes can be used. Most sources says they will be used, but I also read that the only recordings that be used without Nicky testifying are the ones where the FBI documented the time/date and have surveillance photos of.
Either way, the tapes become a little weaker without Nicky testifying. Philly guys got a little (much needed) break. Well, I dont consider it a "break" when the Philly guys have their own voices on tape which is the situation with Licata, Ligambi, Fazzini, and im sure some other tapes the feds have yet to release. From the tapes that have been released, they are pretty self-explanatory with mentions of murder (Gongs) and making ceremonies. You dont need Skins testifying to corroborate that, just put past defectors like Caprio, Milano, and Bent Finger Lou on the stand. Regardless, these guys have a big hill to climb if they think they have a shot at beating this case.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: LuanKuci]
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06/28/12 08:51 PM
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Joseph Merlino will soon rise to power once again. Bringing back the glorious days of disorganization and confusion. Then he'll demise will come by the hand of the Federals!
The Legend continues... This is what I hate. If Joey hasn't taken a page out of Ligambi's book, people are going to start getting hit again. Philly doesn't need that. @22 I once cited the Frankie Flowers murder as unnecessarily harsh, even for the Scarfo era. I got shut down for that for some reason. Anyway, in Caramandi's book, they basically shook down D'Alfonso's friends, hoping that D'alfonso would bail them out, and thus, finally paying the Scarfo street tax. Of course, he tried to be reasonable and negotiate for his friend's safety rather than buying it, and that was the last chance Scarfo gave him.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: southphilly old head]
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06/28/12 10:34 PM
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scarfo was within his rights, everyone in the area was paying, flowers had been warned before, so he got his.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: southphilly old head]
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06/29/12 12:57 AM
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Are they all just going to take a blanket plea deal? 5-7 for Ligambi, 3-5 for tge rest of the crew? Are those numbers off base?
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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06/29/12 04:00 PM
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so far i hear of a few offers that were rejected like Luccibella 63 months and also Staino 63 months. I would say that those number are probably on par but Ligambi might get less than a couple of the other guys cause of priors damm they offered staino 63 months and he doesnt have a previous conviction, IMHO that doesnt bode well for the rest of the guys Where was that cited they offered staino that deal??? His wife cuts my hair? You have to serve what is it 85% of your prison time in the federal system, I like how they make that a rule because it seems that even though some of these crimes carry harsh mandatory minimums they're never applied
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
[Re: pmac]
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06/29/12 07:11 PM
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Hey i happened to know the Turras pretty good and they were hugsters that got into the drug business. They sold fruit for most of their lives at fruit stands and worked at the fruit and produce for some time.Louis which was Tonys son made alot of money dealing drugs and was a really tough kid. When is father who was in a wheel chair got killed in front of his house on his way to court i believe Louis hung himself 2 weeks prior to that while in jail in new york cause his uncle Rocky turned states evidence, also on tape was Tony talking about what his son ought to do to Joeys house.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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06/29/12 09:38 PM
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Iknow with no priors and 29 counts an offer of 63 was turned down probabaly looking for less. What do you think the low guys with only 2 counts and no priors will get?
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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06/29/12 10:29 PM
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so far i hear of a few offers that were rejected like Luccibella 63 months and also Staino 63 months. I would say that those number are probably on par but Ligambi might get less than a couple of the other guys cause of priors damm they offered staino 63 months and he doesnt have a previous conviction, IMHO that doesnt bode well for the rest of the guys Where was that cited they offered staino that deal??? His wife cuts my hair? You have to serve what is it 85% of your prison time in the federal system, I like how they make that a rule because it seems that even though some of these crimes carry harsh mandatory minimums they're never applied The old rule was you only had to serve 60% of your time and you could be paroled.
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