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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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Lucibello was smart asking for a hip replacement, then withdrawing his guilty plea. That gave a scope to the family of what kind of time the feds think they should serve. They're probably pissed, they fell for that, I forget the specifics, but that little stunt was pretty clever I thought. Like I've said on here before I don't follow NYC as close as Phila, but in January when they rounded up the upper echelon of the Bonnanos, those guys got really light sentences,( 2 years)I guess what I'm trying to say is I see a possibility of some of them walking... That plea was pre-Skins and the superseeding indictment which affects guys like Ligambi with the no show job. "Gaeton Lucibello withdrew his guilty plea to racketeering charges, r ejecting a government plea deal that called for a 63-month sentence in the case.During a brief hearing before Judge Eduardo Robreno, Lucibello, 59, turned down a deal he had signed off on earlier this month. The signed plea agreement was the basis for Tuesday's hearing. Lucibello is one of a dozen reputed mob figures charged in an indictment handed up in May. Reputed mob boss Joseph Ligambi, underboss Joseph "Mousie" Massimino, and several other mob soldiers are also defendants in the case. Like Lucibello, they all have been charged with a racketeering conspiracy involving gambling, loan-sharking, and extortion enterprises. In a comment that may not bode well for the defendants, Robreno said "it is unlikely" he would have accepted the plea deal worked out between prosecutors and Ligambi's court-appointed attorney, Caroline Cinquanto, even if Lucibello had decided to honor the agreement. Robreno said he was concerned about an "unwarranted disparity of sentencing" had Lucibello been sentenced to a little more than five years in the racketeering conspiracy case. While the judge offered no further explanation, one interpretation is that Robreno, who has a reputation for meting out tough sentences, expects to level prison terms significantly greater than 63 months should the defendants be convicted." http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2012/04/philly-mobster-withdraws-from.htmlAccording to this, I wouldnt count on the judge to follow the sentencing guidelines too closely...
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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I almost forgot the other cooperating witnesses the feds have revealed might take the stand at trial, check it out below: "North Jersey mob informant Peter "Pete the Crumb" Caprio is expected to testify against reputed mob boss Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi and 11 codefendants. Eugene "Gino" Milano, 52, a South Philadelphia hit man turned informant, also may make a return appearance for the prosecution.The men are expected to provide the jury with details about the way organized crime operates, and, more important, about Ligambi's alleged role in the organization. Sources who have seen the witness list said Caprio and Milano were among those expected to be called to the stand. Others include Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello, who was indicted with Ligambi in May but who began cooperating less than a month after his arrest. The jury also will hear from Frank "Frankie the Fixer" DiGiacomo, a Monacello associate. Other possible witnesses include Anthony Aponick, a bank robber and New York mob associate who did time in a West Virginia prison with Borgesi, and Jack Buscemi, a convicted bookmaker who authorities have said was an associate of Gaeton Lucibello, also a codefendant. Another key witness could be Curt Arbitman, the operator of a video-poker machine company whose warehouse in the 800 block of Mountain Street in South Philadelphia was raided by state police in 2009." Plus dont forget all the Nicky Skins tapes... http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2012/04/mob-informants-expected-to-testify.html
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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Thanks D squared.
I was confused at the one statement you had made, but then skimmed over the page on your blog. I guess the writer made a mistake, " they said Ligambi's Court Appointed Attorney, when they were referring to Lucibello.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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Thanks D squared.
I was confused at the one statement you had made, but then skimmed over the page on your blog. I guess the writer made a mistake, " they said Ligambi's Court Appointed Attorney, when they were referring to Lucibello. yeah i just noticed that, prob a mistake but maybe they have the same attorney? that is also possible...
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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06/09/12 02:26 AM
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It must have been a mis print because ligambi has Ed Jacobs for his attorney
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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No they have different lawyers. Uncle Joe first retained Joe Santaguida, if I remember correctly he fired him, and then retained Eddie Jacobs. Both are seasoned defense attorneys, the feds might have also filed a motion to disqualify Santaguida from representing ligambi or anyone else in the case because of a conflict of interest. Santaguida, has defeneded half of the guys, that have been indicted along with a wide variety of criminals going back 30-40 years. Thanks D squared.
I was confused at the one statement you had made, but then skimmed over the page on your blog. I guess the writer made a mistake, " they said Ligambi's Court Appointed Attorney, when they were referring to Lucibello. yeah i just noticed that, prob a mistake but maybe they have the same attorney? that is also possible...
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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Wait, aren't Nicky Skins' tapes inadmissible as he isn't there to corroborate?!
I have a question… I thought mob guys weren't (supposed) to take guilty pleas? Doesn't taking a guilty plea equate to admitting that "this thing" exists?
And… I think it's fair to say "Bent Finger" Lou gets the award for biggest pussy… ever. Why the hell did he turn over a year or two's sentence??
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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Wait, aren't Nicky Skins' tapes inadmissible as he isn't there to corroborate?!
I have a question… I thought mob guys weren't (supposed) to take guilty pleas? Doesn't taking a guilty plea equate to admitting that "this thing" exists?
And… I think it's fair to say "Bent Finger" Lou gets the award for biggest pussy… ever. Why the hell did he turn over a year or two's sentence?? Used to be not allowed to plea. Nowadays they do. The Genovese Family really started that stuff and it worked out for them. No point in doing 20 years for what could have been 5.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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So, what is the entire point of asking my location? Name Calling isn't allowed on here, so the response I give you is.. "This is gonna be a Cosa Nostra 'til I die. Be it an hour from now, or be it tonight, or a hundred years from now when I'm in jail, it's gonna be a Cosa Nostra." -
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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It's called sarcasm. Did I have anything good to say about Gotti? I didn't. I get a kick out of his quotes and recordings because hes so freaking idiotic.
But if you want to talk about Gotti post on the other thread and we can debate there. Capesh?
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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I wonder if Uncle Joe was semi afraid of punching someone's ticket. I mean not afraid… but afraid of getting tried for murder (again). I mean the evidence on this indictment shows merely "threats of violence"… I guess if it's not necessary, why hurt people.
F. Mazola, Esq.
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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges?
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