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Re: Bombing at girls School in Sicily blamed on Mafia
[Re: GerryLang]
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It was not in Sicily. It was the sacra corona unita mafia who have been linked to it http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16231122 . But it's disgusting if the mafia was involved. Disgusting anyhow
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Re: Bombing at girls School in Sicily blamed on Mafia
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05/19/12 10:55 AM
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Wonder why the sacra corona people would do it.I didn't think that falcone targeted them in any prosecutions.
Because they're in that region. You're not going to have Sicilians come way up there to carry out some bombing in an all girl vocational school. If the sicilians want to carry something out to mark the anniversary, they'll do it on their own turf so to speak. Makes no difference if they were targeted in prosecutions or not. The magistrates were hated equally by all the mafias for imposing article 41-bis on those prisoners indicted among other things.
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Re: Bombing at girls School in Sicily blamed on Mafia
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05/19/12 10:57 AM
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Demented! If this is the work of Sacra Corona and or the Mafia (or anyone else for that matter) it just goes to show the long, twisted memory and perverse thought patterns within these criminal organizations.
I hope they catch the perps and throw away the keys.
Best way to catch the smart ones? Get an idiot working for them.
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Re: Bombing at girls School in Sicily blamed on Mafia
[Re: GerryLang]
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05/19/12 11:07 AM
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Nice Conspiracy Carmela but would the Mafia done it on May 23rd rather then today? Or maybe the SCU are threatening the authorities after the bust last week?
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Re: Bombing at girls School in Sicily blamed on Mafia
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Nice Conspiracy Carmela but would the Mafia done it on May 23rd rather then today? Or maybe the SCU are threatening the authorities after the bust last week? This whole time right now on through July when Borsellino was murdered are referred to as the Capaci Massacres. So, if this is what it's all about, then it could be from now all through July. If that's what it's about. Bust last week is another possibility and hitting a school is something of a symbol for the mafia, albeit disgusting. They have a saying in Italy "La mafia teme piu la scuola che la giustizia" meaning The mafia fears school more than justice. Also, the exact timing of this bomb was intended to kill, as it was set for the exact time the girls would be arriving. That's the saddest part.
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Re: Bombing at girls School in Sicily blamed on Mafia
[Re: GerryLang]
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Could of been a mistake by hitting the school since the courtrooms are right next to it? But probs isnt. Whats that saying suppose to mean? don't understand . Do you live in Italy or have done or what?
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Re: Bombing at girls School in Sicily blamed on Mafia
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Could of been a mistake by hitting the school since the courtrooms are right next to it? But probs isnt. Whats that saying suppose to mean? don't understand . Do you live in Italy or have done or what? No, I don't live there, i just know a lot about it. The saying means the mafia has more of a fear of children getting an education and not having fear of the mob as their parents and grandparents did in the past, more than they fear the justice system. Without fear and with education, the mafia cannot thrive.
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Re: Bombing at girls School in Sicily blamed on Mafia
[Re: GerryLang]
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Ah I understand now Carm, Thanks! and Yeh unfortunately they did. Should bring alot of heat on them which should be good!
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Brindisi, a bomb in school: a female student died
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A crazy act, fierce, obscure matrix for now, even if the track privileged, is the mafia. Two bombs have exploded this morning in Brindisi in front of a professional institute in district Sant'Angelo named Francesca Morvillo and Giovanni Falcone, not far by the tribunal, causing the death of a sixteen year old student, Melissa Bassi, a native of Mesagne, in Brindisi. Very Serious a girl her own age in the operating room, for the serious injuries to the head, legs and chest-abdominal site. Seven other students were injured in the explosion and are now in the hospital 'Perrino' of the Apulian city. Two other students would be the in critical condition, having suffered serious leg injuries, and burns on most of the body. According to the preliminary reports, The explosion happened at 7:50 of this morning, as students were entering the institution. The bomb, according to the leaked from intelligence sources, was placed on the wall of the school (and not in a rubbish bin for waste separation as originally hypothesized) partially occulted by a billboard and would consist of three gas cylinders connected by three different primer For the time has not come any claim of this infamous act, but it is noted that the attack was made ​​on days on which marks the twentieth anniversary, the attack of Capaci, the judge Falcone. In addition, today is provided in the passage of the brindisino, Caravan antimafia. The data in the possession of the investigators would lean towards the runway when mafia on other hypotheses being studied by investigators. In Mesa, the country of birth of the student who lost his life, the night of May 4 and 5 had been damaged by a bomb the car of the president of the anti-racket of the city in the province of Brindisi. 9, the police operation had been performed, again in Mesa, which has dismantled an organization linked to the Sacra Corona Unita mafia. The operation, called 'Die Hard', led to the arrest of 16 people for Mafia association, extortion and drugs. On 8 May a group of politicians from Puglia, led by Alfredo Mantovano (PDL), was received at the Viminale, by the Minister of the Interior, Anna Maria Cancellieri, which had reported the crime alert in Brindisi. The request of the meeting was a follow precisely the bomb detonated in the car of the president of the anti-racketeering Mesagne (Brindisi) and a series of other criminal incidents related to the Sacra Corona Unita. According to prosecutor Marco DiNapoli "would be the first time the Sacra Corona Unita strikes in this way."
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Re: Brindisi, a bomb in school: a female student died
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05/19/12 12:38 PM
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I had not seen the post, Carmela and I can not delete the post, because you have already replied to the post, just as well now, that I keep the post
among the hypotheses to substantiate the thesis Mafia 1) The professional institute was dedicated to Giovanni Falcone and Francesca Morvillo, a short distance by the tribunal; 2) on May 23 recurring 20 years after the Capaci's massacre; 3) days prior to an operation called'' Die Hard'', led to the arrest of 16 persons for extortion, mob association and drug dealing;
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Re: Brindisi, a bomb in school: a female student died
[Re: carmela]
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But why you didn't put this in the thread that's already been started? I just moved this to the already existing thread. Both are now here as one thread.
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Re: Bombing at girls School in Sicily blamed on Mafia
[Re: GerryLang]
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05/19/12 02:31 PM
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What's "Caravan." "We love travel, see, discover, so we started a voyage passionate and dangerous, difficult, but exciting. A journey to new hypotheses of existence, a journey that can give ideas, words, gestures, freedom." With these words, the movement was born in 1994, has since engaged to spreading the concept of education to the democratic legality, to support the victims of usury, extortion of protection money.
In a word to the fight against corruption.
The caravan as a journey around the time of change, torn between the desire to turn the page and the big concern for social issues.
"Organized crime and corruption are the major obstacles to the development, the agents of degradation that weaken the economies of entire countries," I think Carmela, that the mafia or the sacra corona unita wanted to give a clear message: '' 20 years have passed but we are still here, stronger and more ruthless, the Italian State does not make us fear''
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Re: Bombing at girls School in Sicily blamed on Mafia
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05/19/12 03:04 PM
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its a strategy of tension, the mafia did it in the past even worse like when attacked the trains with several dead in the 80s or when attacked rome, milan, florence and other cities in the 90s this things happen when there is not a strong goverment and in italy there is a techich right now and when the mafia i under attack i also think its the sicilians however startting this things, sacra corona probably made the bomb but the order came from seombody else just see like riina brother-in-law is living in brindisi Totally agree. And furio..thanks for that post explaining that to me. I think we all feel the same way about why it happened and who was the real group behind it.
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Re: Bombing at girls School in Sicily blamed on Mafia
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Italy doesn't do these things. If they think it's the mafia, they say so, and it is. They don't play around with this false flag stuff.
Uhm...actually...cospiraciy-wise, Italy is not second to anyone. Do a quick google\wiki search of the Italian "anni di piombo" (the years of lead) and you'll be amazed that those things happened for real.
It's truly disappointing that Italy is the Mexico of Europe.
Anyway, for this particular case the SCU is just one of the many paths that the law and is investigating. Italy has to deal with a bunch of secret criminal\political groups: left-wing terrorists, right-wind terrorists, anarchists (sadly, Italy is # 2 in the EU after Spain) and, of course, organized crime.
Even though OC stopped doing stuff like this because it alienates people. And the Mob needs to have people's appreciation and street-respect.
On il Corriere and La Repubblica it's confirmed that anarchist cells are also being investigated. Simply because the 41 bis a\k\a Carcere Duro (Tough Jail) is what keeps many terrorists or suspected terrorists in extremely hard conditions. It's an inner law of the 416 bis, the Italian RICO act widely used for mobsters, created by Falcone.
There have been many protests from extremists claiming the Falcone was a free mason and that he made this law to get rid of "free thinkers".
During the riots in Rome few months ago, many banners shown slogans against that law...most of the guys that took part of these riots (silly students aside) were allegedly connected to these groups.
The current political situation in Southern Europe it's a beast.
Anyhow, whoever did we all hope he\she\they get arrested and sent to life in prison.
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Re: Bombing at girls School in Sicily blamed on Mafia
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[font:Arial] Italy doesn't do these things. If they think it's the mafia, they say so, and it is. They don't play around with this false flag stuff. Uhm...actually...cospiraciy-wise, Italy is not second to anyone. Do a quick google\wiki search of the Italian "anni di piombo" (the years of lead) and you'll be amazed that those things happened for real. I'm aware of this. But, I'm talking about today, the past 20 years since forza italia and the whole anti-mafia movement went into affect, when it's the mafia (and even when it isn't) the govt will jump at the chance to put blame on the mafia and show them for what they are. They would not sit on that info knowing it's the mafia behind it. Never.
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Re: Bombing at girls School in Sicily blamed on Mafia
[Re: GerryLang]
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if Italy have become the mexico of europe, it is only because of our politicians, in 1992 tangentopolies and Clean Hands, we could be reset the political situation, the old historic parties: the Communist Party and the Christian Democratic Party, which in its history has had many elected criminals in its ranks, we were dissolved, if D'Alema with the Bicameral of 1994 has took off the television of Silvio Berlusconi, we would have had a second republicthat was not a hypocrite photocopy of the first, but this did not happen. after 1992, the Mafia has responded with bombs, but stopped Toto Riina, Provenzano began with the strategy of the dive. Berlusconi since 2001, has plunged Italy into a dark period, with the euro has been halved buying power, the lack of meritocracy, a failing state and wasteful, 120 billion a year of tax evasion, a caste of politicians full of privileges, while the workers starve and fail to make ends mese.in recently increased the number of suicides due to debts, with Equitalia (the agency that collects taxes for the state) targeted by attacks, and a director of Ansaldo, kneecapped, I do not know whether it was the mafia, the Sacra Corona Unita or the secret services or the anarchists or the right-wing terrorism, I just know that such a situation had not seen even during the years of lead, I hope it is not getting worse, but I have serious doubts about this.
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