Originally Posted By: Blibbleblabble
I don't believe wins are worthless, but they certainly shouldn't be the defining factor in what makes a pitcher the best during any given season. 30 wins is extremely impressive, but someone like Nolan Ryan, who is considered one of the most dominating pitchers in baseball history, doesn't have a very good won/loss record.

You can't blame a stellar pitcher for having bad run support.


Good point.

Whitey Ford, certainly a better than average pitcher from the '50s/'60s for the NY Yankees had an unbelievable 25-4 season in 1961. That Yankee team was arguably the best team ever fielded. Would Ford have been as impressive if he played for a lesser team then? Ford's ERA was well over 3.00 .... all he had to do was give up 3 or 4 runs and his hitters would go out and knock in 6 or 7 of their own. He gets the win.


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