Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Just to call a spade a spade, they said the SAME thing about the Italians and Irish in NYC and many other groups at one time or another regardless of location. The fact is that race isn't a major factor in whether you will commit crimes or not, most of these groups commit crimes because of the abject poverty that many live in that creates the conditions for them to turn to a life of crime.

As a Hispanic - American (born in NYC), I take issue with your comment. What about all the underage Hispanic girls that have been raped/assaulted/carried sexual relationship in NYC schools by white males/females in recent memory? Come on bro, calm down and have a little respect.

I am not defending one group over another cause every group has its own share of bad apples. I just think we should be mindful of making statements to misrepresent entire races.


It is a economic thing more than a racial or ethnic thing. But if it's true, it's true. But people automatically become so defensive when somebody says it, that gets forgotten. It's not an indictment of all blacks or all Hispanics. But of a big chunk of black and Hispanic males. Like I said, it's not politically correct to say it, but everyone knows what I'm talking about.


Actually, it's not always an economic thing.

If you look at how the mafia evolved it was economic for guys of the past. Guys from the projects like Mirra and Ruggeiro and even Gotti grew up poor. So they stole. They saw it as a way out. Today's Italians are doing it as an ethnic thing. Giannini crew is a great example. Ethnic bonding.

As for minorities, it's not always economic. It's cultural. A good example is shooting up a house party in Wyandanch or Brentwood because someone dissed you. So you go back to the party and shoot up the house in a drive by. That's not economic. It's actually racial/ethnic bonding with these minority gangs.