Originally Posted By: JasonAnthony74
Originally Posted By: Frosty
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Yeah, Gotti talked just as much as Ruggiero ever did. Gravano may have been the one that flipped, but Gotti yacking away on the Ravenite tapes was a precursor to that and did just as much damage.
Gotti, had a big mouth, no doubt , as I have stated before loose lips sink ships ! But he did have class, and he spent his time and with his medical condition it wasn't easy, he paid a price and was tough doing it ! Gravano, tough guy yes, but then got a chance and blew that FH! I have no respect for him at all ! Callen it the way I see it !


How can you respect any of those guys, though? They are/were all glorified thieves who preyed on others. I lump them all together in one barrel. And I'm not so sure how bad Sammy was for ratting. Gotti was saying some pretty bad things about Gravano. And this was after Gravano was helping to make Gotti very rich by giving John a huge cut of all of his (Gravano's) companies that Gotti was complaining about. At the end of the day, they are all liars, crooks and thieves. They rob, steal, and kill. But flipping on a guy is some sort of mortal sin? It was Gotti's big mouth that got them (Sammy, Frankie, Gotti) all arrested in the first place. You never heard Sammy's loose lips on any tape. Gotti caused his own downfall; Gravano just decided to help things along!


well that and also the FBI had a huge hardon for Gotti and wanted him on tape at ALL costs, various bugs in his club, cirelli's apt, etc taping gravano was secondary to the big prize that was on the front page of the ny papers beating the govt at different trials

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