Oops...Sorry. I Didn´t mean to make you feel old.
If it´s any consolation...we are all getting older...

I think exactly the same. In my opinion if they killed the rapist, they should have got a medal. But was he at least convicted for the rape or remained unpunished?

Speaking of rapists, anybody noticed how every other day in the papers a teacher in NYC is accused of touching kids/sexual assault? It is crazy the number of perverts in our school system...

Pales in comparison to what's happening out her in LA.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-teacher-arrests-20120224,0,7501054.story

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0222-substitute-teacher-20120222,0,5056611.story

Anyone with a subscription have a permanent link I can use for a Wikipedia ref once it goes off the main page?

I'm surprised this isn't getting the same attention Cefalu got.

it possibly isnt because with cefalu they can use the name gotti in the article and in which would raise the sales on new york newspapers

That was another weird thing. No one even gave Peter Gotti's name when Dom got the top job - there was some talk about the "Gotti clan" but everyone forgot about Pete.

Why would the Gambinos putting a new official boss in place have any bearing on what the Luccheses or another family does?

well its seems strange. all of the sudden in a space of less than a year weve seen two families make two new official bosses. im not saying gambinos influenced lucchese but maybe for this to happen it could generally influence other families to do so

I agree with Short here Ivy. It is a bit startling based on the trend of the past 20 or so years in every single family. I don't think it is bizarre that he is speculating as to there possibly being some connection.

I'm surprised a guy like Lastorino wasn't shelved when he got out of prison, especially since he killed Patty Testa for no reason other than him being close to Vic Amuso. One of the guys who plotted to kill Crea along with Lastorino, Conte, Gioia, and Zappola was Frank Papagni. Papagni gets released in 2015 supposedly, the reason why I mentioned this is because there is almost no iformation at all on Papagni.

That's the thing about mob life; sometimes it's just not prudent to hold a grudge. In the American mob, you can forget all of that "a Sicilian never forgets" stuff. If it's financially beneficial for all parties to bury the hatchet (no pun intended), they sometimes do.

Another Luchese guy recently released was Michael DeSantis, he was the guy who was supposedly going to kill Al D'Arco when Al ran out of the hotel in Manhattan.

Yeah, it really isn't smart to hold a grudge in that life. Lastorino seems to be particulary crazy and brutal though. Even his son went off his rocker and tried to kill a guy last year and wound up getting killed by the cops. If I remember correctly he was trying to kill the brother of a made guy. I remember reading in Capeci article a few years back that another Lastorino son was running rackets for his father, and was beefing with another made guy, I don't know if Lastorino's son is a made guy himself.

yeah lastorino's son tried to whack ray argentina's brother, they even had the video on the news it was crazy

OK, so we have official bosses for the Gambinos and Luccheses. As well as Carmine Persico, for the Colombos. Somebody else said recently that Allie Persico will probably become official boss once Carmine dies. I agree with that. I could see the Bonannos eventually naming a new official boss. Vinny Basciano would have been it if he hadn't gotten life. But I'd be rather surprised if we see the Genovese ever install a new official boss.

i cant see ally becoming new boss. i think the colombos will just ignore what carmine wants (if it is one of his sons). i can see the genovese naming one actually. since there the most secretive. its gives them an advantage to have an official boss on the streets

Im trying to think of candidates for Official Boss for the Bonannos, Rabito and Santora? I doubt it, they never seem to be out of jail long enough to make much of a difference. TG? Highly doubt it, especially since Mob Wives. Vinny TV? Vincent Asaro? Frank Porco? I feel like Bruno Indelicato would be a candidate for some admin spot when he gets out in 2023.

Also, Ally Boy is never getting out, right? Would be the best for the Colombo's to dump the Persico's and name a new boss. They probably want to, but are still afraid of Carmine and co.

Stevie Crea was always going to become the official boss ever since he was dropped parole late 2009. In my humble opinion I also believe that whilst Vic Amuso was playing the lightening rod behind bars Crea was calling the shots and played a mediated role between Vic Amuso and the immediate crime family before being announced the official boss in stature.

Crea looks a lot like the actor Frank Vincent (Vincente).

I'd love to find out if I could find a way to see the records of visitation between Crea and Amusso where Amusso's at

If the family was going to ignore the wishes of the Persicos, they would have already replaced Carmine by now, since he's never getting out of prison either. And part of the reason the Genovese are the most secretive is because, as law enforcement has stated, they have kept their lines of reporting "less clear" than the other NY families.

Ivy, you think the Genovese have a boss that only the top Capos are aware of?

ivy i dont get the less clear part. what do you mean?

I wanted to say same.

i think he looks more like johnny sack. (the recent pic)

If you're asking do I think there is one guy that has replaced Vincent Gigante as the official boss of the family, no I don't. Looking at the last 15 years or so, the family has been run by several top leaders, with one of them occasionally stepping up as the acting boss. At other times, indictments have labeled more than one guy as the "acting boss," which is essentially the case when the family is being run by committee.



In the past, law enforcement has said that the Genovese family has kept their hierarchy "less clear" than that of the other families. Not just when Gigante stayed in the background while Fat Tony acted as the boss, but also in more recent times by keeping information between members and crews in the family to a minimum, so as to prevent one member or crew effecting others if he/they get indicted or flip.

One ranking member visiting another ranking member in prison is very rare. Even if you could get around a government imposed visitation restriction (which is always a possibility), you'd have to be crazy to do so. It would attract waaaaaay too much attention.

i highly doubt crea ever visited amuso in the can,

Amuso's eyes and ears on the street was Domenico "Danny" Cutaia the capo of the Brownsville Crew. Cutaia was the former messenger between the imprisoned Amuso and the crime family often times visiting Vic in the can and passing messages outside.On October 25, 2009, he was sentenced to three years in prison for bank fraud.His projected release date November 21, 2012. But he has tons of health problems and was literally going crazy last I heard.

I get the feeling that the post is passed around that select few members. I'm curious who makes the final say with things.