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The Sacra Corona Unita kill a pedophile #633523
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http://qn.quotidiano.net/cronaca/2012/01/27/659928-sacra_corona_unita_elimina_pedofilo.shtml

The Sacra Corona Unita 'kill a pedophile
Killer in action to gain prestige
Four key executives in handcuffs mesagnese crime, including one of the historical leaders in Salento, on charges of having beaten to death June 16, 2009, a pedophile that entertained sexual relationships with several minor

Rome, January 27, 2012 - Police arrested four members of Brindisi major crime mesagnese, including one of the historical leaders of the Sacra Corona Unita, on charges of having beaten to death June 16, 2009 a criminal assaulted in her home by three criminals and died the next day for the injuries suffered.

In particular, emerged as the murder resulted from a strong resentment of the leaders of the Sacra Corona Unita fed to the victim for personal reasons. With the consent of the vertices of the structure were then charged with three criminal offenders who had actually carried out the murder.

The crime was committed in order to facilitate the activities of the 'Sacra Corona Unita' with the acquisition of prestige since the victim was 'accused' to have relations with minors, and therefore to be submitted to 'punishment'.

Re: The Sacra Corona Unita kill a pedophile [Re: furio_from_naples] #633547
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Good job. They should kill them all and receive a medal.


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Good job if it really was a pedophile and not just a rival criminal. Those people could well lie about him being a pedophile to increase their prestige for killing him. I'm not sure though.


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2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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It could also be a rival criminal AND a pedophile. wink


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I support the death penalty for pedophiles, and cutting of d**k and balls for rapists,

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I think it's sort of funny how you guys love the mafia but all of the sudden get morals about pedophiles and rapists.

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Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo
I think it's sort of funny how you guys love the mafia but all of the sudden get morals about pedophiles and rapists.

I don't love the mafia, I am just interested in it from the historical point of view and in how the law enforcement deals with it. For me, the fight against the mafia is more interesting than the mafia itself.


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo
I think it's sort of funny how you guys love the mafia but all of the sudden get morals about pedophiles and rapists.

I don't love the mafia, I am just interested in it from the historical point of view and in how the law enforcement deals with it. For me, the fight against the mafia is more interesting than the mafia itself.


Well you are probably in the minority here then.

Most of us are interested in the mafia itself, as are most people as you can see by how successful movies/tv shows about the mafia are.

But to say "John Gotti was awesome!" and then "Pedos are sick and should be killed" is just dumb. Pedophilia is disgusting but is it really as bad as murder, torture, extortion, etc.

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Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo

But to say "John Gotti was awesome!" and then "Pedos are sick and should be killed" is just dumb. Pedophilia is disgusting but is it really as bad as murder, torture, extortion, etc.

I completely agree. It's a pity that blog about Vic Amuso is gone now, if not I would have suggested to everybody who is interested in the mafia and the fight against the mafia to read the discussions there. One of the things constantly said there by mafia supporters was just that - the FBI should concentrate on pedophiles and rapists and leave the mafiosi alone. I agree that pedophiles and rapists should be one of the priorities in fighting crime, but why should the mafia organizations benefit from it?


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo

But to say "John Gotti was awesome!" and then "Pedos are sick and should be killed" is just dumb. Pedophilia is disgusting but is it really as bad as murder, torture, extortion, etc.

I completely agree. It's a pity that blog about Vic Amuso is gone now, if not I would have suggested to everybody who is interested in the mafia and the fight against the mafia to read the discussions there. One of the things constantly said there by mafia supporters was just that - the FBI should concentrate on pedophiles and rapists and leave the mafiosi alone. I agree that pedophiles and rapists should be one of the priorities in fighting crime, but why should the mafia organizations benefit from it?


I think a lot of people think the mafia is like they see in the Sopranos or Donnie Brasco, so they like them. And there is something likeable about them and the lifestyle. Reading the chapter "Wise Guys are Not Nice Guys" in Joe Pistone's book opened my eyes up about them. There is nothing cool about cutting a guys dick off and shoving down his throat, or impaling a man on a meat hook.

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The Fbi and the police,must fight the pedophiles and rapists, and also fight the mob, because the US and italian State can do it at the same time.Where I come from even the worst criminals, and I speak of people who have murdered, sold drugs, extorted, and so on, they know they must don't touch the kids, why do pedophiles put them in separate pavilions, away from the common prisoners, who otherwise would kill them. and despite this fact, either in prison or when they come out of prison in one way or another, they are killed.

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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
The Fbi and the police,must fight the pedophiles and rapists, and also fight the mob, because the US and italian State can do it at the same time.Where I come from even the worst criminals, and I speak of people who have murdered, sold drugs, extorted, and so on, they know they must don't touch the kids, why do pedophiles put them in separate pavilions, away from the common prisoners, who otherwise would kill them. and despite this fact, either in prison or when they come out of prison in one way or another, they are killed.


I would ask what makes someone touching a child worse than someone who murders innocent people?

I think pedophiles are generally just physically weaker than other criminals so those criminals see a chance to abuse them and do, under the pretense of "honor". Mad Sam DeStefano's criminal career starting off with him raping a 14 year old girl when he was 18, and no mobster ever tried to kill him over it.

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There are many mobsters convicted for rape or had unnatural relationships with under-age people in various countries who still have authority in the criminal world, so I think rape and pedophilia being considered "banned" among mobsters is just a lie criminals have spread like the lie about drugs being forbidden in the American Cosa Nostra when in reality every boss took his share of profit from drugs.

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2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Yeah lol. It's funny that a lot of people say old school mafiosi wouldn't deal drugs. Yet Lucky Luciano who is probably the most famous in NYC mafia history started out as a heroin dealer.

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Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo
I think it's sort of funny how you guys love the mafia but all of the sudden get morals about pedophiles and rapists.


Nobody here "loves" the mafia, smartass. At least I think so. Anyway, I don't have problems with a mobster killing another mobster, because that is part of their life. I do have problems with an adult abusing a little child.


"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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I think it's sort of funny how you guys love the mafia but all of the sudden get morals about pedophiles and rapists.


Nobody here "loves" the mafia, smartass. At least I think so. Anyway, I don't have problems with a mobsters killing another mobsters, because that is part of their life. I do have problems with an adult abusing a little child.


You do realize that mobsters do kill non-mobsters as well...
Think of all the innocent people the DeMeo crew killed. Think of all the witnesses and jurors mobsters have killed over the years. Or the cops and judges, especially in Italy.

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Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo
But to say "John Gotti was awesome!"


I think I missed something. Did someone really say this over here? rolleyes


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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black

Nobody here "loves" the mafia, smartass. At least I think so. Anyway, I don't have problems with a mobsters killing another mobsters, because that is part of their life. I do have problems with an adult abusing a little child.

If they only killed other mobsters... Their crimes are never limited to that, unfortunately.


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo
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Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo
I think it's sort of funny how you guys love the mafia but all of the sudden get morals about pedophiles and rapists.


Nobody here "loves" the mafia, smartass. At least I think so. Anyway, I don't have problems with a mobsters killing another mobsters, because that is part of their life. I do have problems with an adult abusing a little child.


You do realize that mobsters do kill non-mobsters as well...
Think of all the innocent people the DeMeo crew killed. Think of all the witnesses and jurors mobsters have killed over the years. Or the cops and judges, especially in Italy.


I don't blame you for not knowing me since you have just registered. But people here that do know me, also know my opinion on mobsters. Still, I won't deny that I find them intriguing.

Mobsters who kill "truly innocent" people are animals also.


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Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo
Yeah lol. It's funny that a lot of people say old school mafiosi wouldn't deal drugs. Yet Lucky Luciano who is probably the most famous in NYC mafia history started out as a heroin dealer.


Well, it´s not a question of old and new. It´s a question of consevative and liberal values. The conservatives followed the old tradition, while the liberals wanted to modernize the Mafia.
Lucky Luciano was a liberal gangster.
But let´s not get into this in this thread. Otherwise we might piss off Sonny Black. smile


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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
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Nobody here "loves" the mafia, smartass. At least I think so. Anyway, I don't have problems with a mobsters killing another mobsters, because that is part of their life. I do have problems with an adult abusing a little child.

If they only killed other mobsters... Their crimes are never limited to that, unfortunately.


Apparently he doesn't realize that every dollar they make comes from innocent, hard working people.

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Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo
Apparently he doesn't realize that every dollar they make comes from innocent, hard working people.


You just arrived and you surely do not know what I realize and what I don't realize. Why are you here again?


"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles
But let´s not get into this in this thread. Otherwise we might piss off Sonny Black. smile


Hey, if you want to discuss why a group of lions kill a baby elephant in a thread about Salvatore Montagna, and the admins over here don't mind, be my guest. smile


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Apparently he doesn't realize that every dollar they make comes from innocent, hard working people.


You just arrived and you surely do not know what I realize and what I don't realize. Why are you here again?


I'm here because I want to be. Is there some prerequisite to posting here?

You said you have no problem with mobsters killing other mobsters but you do with pedophiles abusing children. You left out the things mobsters do to make money, like sell drugs, extort businesses, counterfeit, id theft, stock fraud, bid rigging, etc. All of these things hurt innocent people financially.
So my point was it is dumb to like mobsters but hate pedophiles. I never said you did like mobsters, but I have lurked here for a long time and it's pretty clear by the first few replies in this thread that pedophiles are hated far more than mobsters(who are often praised here).

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Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo
but I have lurked here for a long time and it's pretty clear by the first few replies in this thread that pedophiles are hated far more than mobsters(who are often praised here).

And they should be. There's nothing lower than a pedophile or child abuser. They deserve their own wing in Hell. If you don't agree with this, you obviously don't have children.

As far as mob guys: I grew up around these assholes all my life and, generally speaking, I have no use for them. But to each his own. There's no reason to preach.


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but I have lurked here for a long time and it's pretty clear by the first few replies in this thread that pedophiles are hated far more than mobsters(who are often praised here).

And they should be. There's nothing lower than a pedophile or child abuser. They deserve their own wing in Hell. If you don't agree with this, you obviously don't have children.

As far as mob guys: I grew up around these assholes all my life and, generally speaking, I have no use for them. But to each his own. There's no reason to preach.

nvm. This isn't worth arguing over.

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Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo
but I have lurked here for a long time and it's pretty clear by the first few replies in this thread that pedophiles are hated far more than mobsters(who are often praised here).

And they should be. There's nothing lower than a pedophile or child abuser. They deserve their own wing in Hell. If you don't agree with this, you obviously don't have children.

As far as mob guys: I grew up around these assholes all my life and, generally speaking, I have no use for them. But to each his own. There's no reason to preach.


What about mob guys who murder people's children?

You don't have to sell me on the evils of the Mafia. I'm not a fanboy. I'm 52 years old and Italian American. I grew up in the Belmont section of the Bronx, and I know just what they're capable of. But very few of them are capable of hurting children the way common pedophiles do.


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Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo
You left out the things mobsters do to make money, like sell drugs, extort businesses, counterfeit, id theft, stock fraud, bid rigging, etc. All of these things hurt innocent people financially.


Ofcourse, it remains to be seen how "innocent" every one is. Most people are hypocrite and corrupt in certain degrees. If I would worry about every child in Africa that dies from malnutrition or aids I could better kill myself.

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So my point was it is dumb to like mobsters but hate pedophiles. I never said you did like mobsters, but I have lurked here for a long time and it's pretty clear by the first few replies in this thread that pedophiles are hated far more than mobsters(who are often praised here).


I said they should kill them all, just as I don't mind mobsters killing eachother. It's the same thing. In any case, I'm here to discuss organized crime, just like everybody else.


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it's pretty clear by the first few replies in this thread that pedophiles are hated far more than mobsters


its logic because mobsters (if you are not a businessman or shopkeeper) rarely hurt directly normal people, even in a town infested by them

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Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo
I think it's sort of funny how you guys love the mafia but all of the sudden get morals about pedophiles and rapists.


WTF? Here a week and starting shit? Who's a fanboy? Who "loves the mafia"? Fuck those homicidal assholes. And fuck pedos a hundred times more.

Originally Posted By: CarloRizzo

I would ask what makes someone touching a child worse than someone who murders innocent people?


I mean, WTF is that statement about; are you a pedophile?

Seriously dude, its actually quite easy to pick out the fanboys on sites like this. To direct the above quote at all posters (which it would seem you're doing by saying "you guys") is ludicrous.

PB makes a great point; there are very few mobsters capabale of hurting a child in the same way a pedophile does. Sure there are exceptions (Pino Greco, Giovanni Brusca) but in a general sense, its a totally different kind of evil.

Last edited by Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica; 02/08/12 03:30 AM.

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