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Old timers who may get out some day. #633280
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So this thread is about some of the guys who have been locked away for a long time and forgotten about, but are still relatively young and have a chance of getting out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Coonan
Jimmy Coonan has been locked up since 1988 and could get out in 2036, he'd be 89 so his chances aren't too great, but it's possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_twins_%28mafia%29#Gemini_twins
The Gemini Twins have both been locked up since 1989. They are serving life but both are 56 so they have a decent chance of paroling some day.

So if you know any more guys who have been away for a long time but might get out post them here. Also, do you think that guys who do really long sentences go back to their old families and get involved again or does being away all those years lose them their position?




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Re: Old timers who may get out some day. [Re: CarloRizzo] #633283
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Gambino soldier Gene Gotti comes to mind, sentenced to 50 years in 1989. Gene's projected release date is September 14, 2017, when he would be 71 years old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Gotti


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Gene Gotti up for parole anytime before 2017? he's been locked up for almost 24 years for drug charge.

Is it true he still have people looking over his money on the street?

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There would be no justice if the Gemini Twins get out, their Psychopaths who don't deserve to see the light of day.

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Originally Posted By: NickyScarfo
There would be no justice if the Gemini Twins get out, their Psychopaths who don't deserve to see the light of day.


Plenty of other mobsters did, and still do the same things they did. They just got busted for it.

I'm sure Gene Gotti murdered and dismembered plenty of people back in his day.

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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Gambino soldier Gene Gotti comes to mind, sentenced to 50 years in 1989. Gene's projected release date is September 14, 2017, when he would be 71 years old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Gotti


And to think, if he had been able to take a plea deal, he would have been out by now. That must burn his ass with the heat of a thousand suns. whistle

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Gambino soldier Gene Gotti comes to mind, sentenced to 50 years in 1989. Gene's projected release date is September 14, 2017, when he would be 71 years old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Gotti


And to think, if he had been able to take a plea deal, he would have been out by now. That must burn his ass with the heat of a thousand suns. whistle


I was thinking that to. John Gotti wouldn't let them take deals so he gets 50. Then last year about 100 Gambinos get busted and they plea out and most will be out in 3 years.

And on top of that Gotti allies aren't in control anymore so if he does get out he won't have as high of a spot as he deserves for the time he did.

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Does anyone agree or think Gotti was right with no plea deals? What were the reasons for no plea's? if he didnt make that rule many guys would of gotten out at least half of the time they did/ received. Did anyone still Plea out when Gotti was boss? ( besides his son)

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gemini twins are never ever getting out.


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Originally Posted By: sickstylemob12

Does anyone agree or think Gotti was right with no plea deals? What were the reasons for no plea's? if he didnt make that rule many guys would of gotten out at least half of the time they did/ received. Did anyone still Plea out when Gotti was boss? ( besides his son)


That was a horrible rule imo. The Genovese's were the ones known for cutting plea deals when they got busted and as a result they had way fewer rats than the other families because instead of looking at 15-20 years guys would plea and do 5 or so and then parole. And it worked for them as the Genovese's are definitely the best off of the 5 families. But now they all plea, as you could see in the Gambino bust last year.

The reason for the no plea rule was that back in the day no one was to admit that the mafia existed or to ever give the cops any information about anything. By cutting a deal for racketeering you are basically admitting you were a mafia member and that was a big no-no. That worked ok in the 50s when guys were getting shorter sentences, but when RICO came along and guys starting getting what amounted to life sentences for racketeering and drug charges it wasn't worth it anymore.

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The living legend of LCN 93 year old Sonny Franzese sentenced to 8 years in 2011, his scheduled release date is June 25, 2017.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Franzese

Bonanno Capo Anthony "Bruno/Whack-Whack" Indelicato, got 20 years in 2008, his projected release date is July 20, 2023, when he would be 76 years old.

Bonanno soldier Anthony “Ace/T” Aiello who is 34 gets out May 6, 2031 at the age of 53.

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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don


Bonanno Capo Anthony "Bruno/Whack-Whack" Indelicato, got 20 years in 2008, his projected release date is July 20, 2023, when he would be 76 years old.



i wonder if jimmy burke's daughter Catherine will stay with him during his stint


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^^^prob, if she met/married him while he was in the first time i think she might be used to it


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yeah she met him while visiting her dad. i've heard claims that she is a "female wiseguy". alot of them coming from Henry Hill. i know she did try and shake down marty s outta 100,000 grand for using the name Jimmy Burke in goodfellas. thats why they used the name Conway instead of burke in the movie.


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gambino bust last year. you mean old bridge which was fours years ago or you mean the gambinos of the mob bust last year in january? old bridge 52 out of the 60 or something gt no more then three years


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Originally Posted By: short841
gambino bust last year. you mean old bridge which was fours years ago or you mean the gambinos of the mob bust last year in january? old bridge 52 out of the 60 or something gt no more then three years


both really but I was talking about the one last year, not old bridge.
Now all of them take plea deals when years ago it was almost only the Genoveses that would.

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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
The living legend of LCN 93 year old Sonny Franzese sentenced to 8 years in 2011, his scheduled release date is June 25, 2017.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Franzese

Bonanno Capo Anthony "Bruno/Whack-Whack" Indelicato, got 20 years in 2008, his projected release date is July 20, 2023, when he would be 76 years old.

Bonanno soldier Anthony “Ace/T” Aiello who is 34 gets out May 6, 2031 at the age of 53.



Anthony Aiello was 28 when he got put in jail and he didnt snitch like the other guys in that Pizzolo murder case.This guy after he is released will be administration level within 5 years even baldo amoto saw something in this guy.Can u imagine being 28 and getting out at 53?this guy will probably never have a family and his parents will be dead probably.He must really belive in lcn.Imagine not having sex throughout your 30s and 40s poor guy lol

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George Zappola gets out sometime in 2014, he got nailed in the early-mid 90's, and did a lot of heavy work for Gaspipe Casso. George Conte and Anthony Bowat Barratta, both Casso loyalist who went down with Zappola get out before or the same time too. These guys should have never seen the light of day again, but were smart enough to take plea deals. Zappolla was charged with four murders alone. There are guys who fight one murder charge and get life!

Joey Merlino's father is another one who could get out in a few years if he could last that long believe it or not. He went down with Scarfo, so he has probably already been in the can 20 plus years now.

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Originally Posted By: tiger84
Imagine not having sex throughout your 30s and 40s poor guy lol


He would have had Plenty of opportunity to have sex...................just not the kind he was wanting!!!
LMAO


I agree, the Gemini Twins will never get out!
DeMeo had the last laugh on those two.

Nor will Henry Borelli (people sometimes forget about him).
Borelli has actually been eligable for parole since 1996 but has never applied because he knows he wont have a cat in hells chance of being released.

Gene Gotti should get out in the next few years where you would think he would have the sense to live his time out quietly.

What about Gravano?
Will he ever get out?

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The Wikipedia article suggests the symptoms of Graves Disease can be treated well enough, but is Sammy really going to get the best treatment available?

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Gravano won't survive his sentence he already has that disease that makes him look like aids/holocaust survivor. he got 20 years when he was around 57 years old. that would make him 77, and after he fucked the govt...you know there is no chance of him being paroled.


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this is what sammy is lookin like nowadays. its called graves disease

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Originally Posted By: GaryH
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Imagine not having sex throughout your 30s and 40s poor guy lol


He would have had Plenty of opportunity to have sex...................just not the kind he was wanting!!!
LMAO


I agree, the Gemini Twins will never get out!
DeMeo had the last laugh on those two.

Nor will Henry Borelli (people sometimes forget about him).
Borelli has actually been eligable for parole since 1996 but has never applied because he knows he wont have a cat in hells chance of being released.

Gene Gotti should get out in the next few years where you would think he would have the sense to live his time out quietly.

What about Gravano?
Will he ever get out?


idk i feel like gene gotti might be bumped up to capo/admin for his loyalty since hes been in the can all these yrs regardless of whether there are any other gottis in the admins

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Originally Posted By: tiger84
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The living legend of LCN 93 year old Sonny Franzese sentenced to 8 years in 2011, his scheduled release date is June 25, 2017.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Franzese

Bonanno Capo Anthony "Bruno/Whack-Whack" Indelicato, got 20 years in 2008, his projected release date is July 20, 2023, when he would be 76 years old.

Bonanno soldier Anthony “Ace/T” Aiello who is 34 gets out May 6, 2031 at the age of 53.



Anthony Aiello was 28 when he got put in jail and he didnt snitch like the other guys in that Pizzolo murder case.This guy after he is released will be administration level within 5 years even baldo amoto saw something in this guy.Can u imagine being 28 and getting out at 53?this guy will probably never have a family and his parents will be dead probably.He must really belive in lcn.Imagine not having sex throughout your 30s and 40s poor guy lol


yep basciano was picked up on a recording by the fat rat massino in the can talking about ace and how he was massino's "luca brasi" and how baldo schooled him in the old ways and he was very loyal etc

ace's dad i believe is also in the can Bonanno soldier Anonio “Tony” Aiello


here we go


"Based on recordings former boss-turned-rat Joseph "Big Joey" Massino made of his successor, Vincent "Vinny Gorgeous" Basciano, while wearing a wire, the "Godfather" character he and his crew most resemble is not Vito or Michael. It's Fredo.
"[Anthony] Ace Aiello is like a Luca Brasi," Basciano said, comparing the Bonanno sodlier to the Corleone's loyal hit man, on recordings played in Brooklyn federal court yesterday.
"He's your Luca Brasi," Basciano said. "

http://fivefamiliesnyc.blogspot.com/2011/04/joseph-big-joey-massino-recordings.html

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Originally Posted By: GerryLang
George Zappola gets out sometime in 2014, he got nailed in the early-mid 90's, and did a lot of heavy work for Gaspipe Casso. George Conte and Anthony Bowat Barratta, both Casso loyalist who went down with Zappola get out before or the same time too. These guys should have never seen the light of day again, but were smart enough to take plea deals. Zappolla was charged with four murders alone. There are guys who fight one murder charge and get life!

Joey Merlino's father is another one who could get out in a few years if he could last that long believe it or not. He went down with Scarfo, so he has probably already been in the can 20 plus years now.


yep i was just thinking of these lucchese guys, heavy hitters all around that fam is getting some big players back on the streets in the next few yrs


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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
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Originally Posted By: tiger84
Imagine not having sex throughout your 30s and 40s poor guy lol


He would have had Plenty of opportunity to have sex...................just not the kind he was wanting!!!
LMAO


I agree, the Gemini Twins will never get out!
DeMeo had the last laugh on those two.

Nor will Henry Borelli (people sometimes forget about him).
Borelli has actually been eligable for parole since 1996 but has never applied because he knows he wont have a cat in hells chance of being released.

Gene Gotti should get out in the next few years where you would think he would have the sense to live his time out quietly.

What about Gravano?
Will he ever get out?


idk i feel like gene gotti might be bumped up to capo/admin for his loyalty since hes been in the can all these yrs regardless of whether there are any other gottis in the admins
yeah i think that too. he still has alot of respect within the family. i've heard that he still might have money out on the streets. how true this is i don't know but i did hear it


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Gene seems like the forgotten gotti since he brother has become the most high profile over the last 25 years but gene was the first gotti to be made and he was a successful mobster(outside of the drug bust in 83 of course) Considering he served his time with no deal he may go back into the family. as for the demeo crew members there is no chance. Someone mention borelli and i heard that the judge who sentenced him actually recommended that he never recieve parole so that pretty much fucks up his chance lol

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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague

And to think, if he had been able to take a plea deal, he would have been out by now. That must burn his ass with the heat of a thousand suns. whistle


you made me spit my drink out laughing with that, nice work

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here is a pretty cool site about some information of some of the guys you mentioned

http://www.socnet.com/showthread.php?t=90238&page=2

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Who else is still locked up from the Scarfo era besides Scarfo and Merlino? A lot of the guys recently got out the last year or two. I was trying to think who else is still in there.

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