What's ironic is, on one hand you've got people who believe some of the NY families are finished. While, on the other hand, you've got other people who don't believe families in certain other cities actually are.
True, Ivy.
There are people who will tell you with a straight face that the Detroit or Kansas City families are alive and well, then tell you in the same breath that the Colombos or the Luccheses are finished
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There's way too much local jingoism on boards like these. And what a thing to get jingoistic about, a bunch of fucking thugs!
