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Murder attempt on Antonion Pietrantonio last night #624746
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Jarry St. E. shooting may be Mafia-related

By Jan Ravensbergen, The Gazette December 14, 2011 9:42 AM

MONTREAL – Police refused Wednesday morning to confirm a report that the 48-year-old man shot and critically wounded outside a Jarry St. E. restaurant Tuesday night is Antonio Pietrantonio – a reputed mobster with links to the embattled Rizzuto clan.

Police were called to the scene, corner Chambord St., at 8:50 p.m.

The shooting took place near the entrance to the Imperio restaurant, a Portuguese dining spot just south of the Metropolitan Expressway between Christophe Colomb and Papineau Aves.

The man remains in critical but stable condition in hospital, Constable Yannick Ouimet of Montreal police said.

Ouimet refused to confirm the target's identity.

However, he added, the method used in the gangland-style hit – one or more suspects escaped in a car that was found torched several blocks away – is consistent with organized-crime tactics.

Arson-squad investigators have been assigned to the burned-out vehicle, found about 9:20 p.m. near the corner of Jacques-Casault and Joseph-Quintal Sts.

Ouimet said that he might be able to confirm sometime later Wednesday a report that the car had been stolen prior to the shooting.

The victim was shot in the upper body, Ouimet said.

Ouimet said he couldn't say whether the victim had been hit by more than a single bullet.

Given his medical condition, Ouimet said, the victim hasn't yet been questioned by investigators.

Ouimet said he was not in a position to say how many gunmen were involved in the attack, or provide descriptions.

Pietrantonio is said to carry the nickname Tony Suzuki, apparently reflecting his association with one or more Montreal-region car dealerships.

Ouimet also wouldn't confirm a report that Lorenzo Lopresti, shot and killed recently while grabbing a smoke on his condo balcony in St. Laurent, had been the right-hand man of the Jarry E. victim.

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Re: Murder attempt on Antonion Pietrantonio last night [Re: eurodave] #624748
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It's getting pretty clear now that there are indeed groups or individuals fighting each other.


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I told you guys he'd be next.

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Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
I told you guys he'd be next.


Yes you did. I remember you saying so.


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Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
I told you guys he'd be next.


So you think this is a retaliation for the murder of Montagna? And what about LoPresti, was he with Montagna or against him? It wouldn't make sense otherwise.


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I'm confused myself but I know that Suzuki was a trusted RIZZUTO family member. I know for sure that Suzuki was seeking revenge for Loprestis murder. Lopresti got killed before Sal and know Suzuki gets attempted.

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Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
I'm confused myself but I know that Suzuki was a trusted RIZZUTO family member. I know for sure that Suzuki was seeking revenge for Loprestis murder. Lopresti got killed before Sal and know Suzuki gets attempted.


You did predict Tony Suzuki would be next because he was intended to be Sal's next victim but Suzuki struck first. This is probably in retaliation to Montagna and the new regime if what you say is true.

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Just got news that Suzuki is still a RIZZUTO loyalist and has not changed regime.

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Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
Just got news that Suzuki is still a RIZZUTO loyalist and has not changed regime.



So it`s most probably retaliation from Montagnas coalition, Ontario included.

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Is it possible that they are all being taken out due to Sicilian descent, including Sal? I had read earlier that Lopresti's killing was a warning to Montagna to back off. Now you're saying that Montagna was responsible. Could the talks have fallen through and they are now back to killing everyone with Rizzuto ties?

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lo presti and pietrantonio are not allied of the rizzuto's, it's evident it's a war between rizzuto loyalists and bonanno zips who want take over montreal
i also think at this point that cun trera was not on rizzuto's side anymore

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Originally Posted By: m2w

i also think at this point that cun trera was not on rizzuto's side anymore


That is a very good assumption. wink


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Originally Posted By: m2w
lo presti and pietrantonio are not allied of the rizzuto's, it's evident it's a war between rizzuto loyalists and bonanno zips who want take over montreal
i also think at this point that cun trera was not on rizzuto's side anymore


Horrible assumption.....[BadWord] stepped in as interim boss for the Rizzuto organization once Renda and Nick Jr were gone.

He was the boss of St Leonard and had an iron grip on a lot restos in Montreal. Many people were happy to see him go.

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Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: m2w
lo presti and pietrantonio are not allied of the rizzuto's, it's evident it's a war between rizzuto loyalists and bonanno zips who want take over montreal
i also think at this point that cun trera was not on rizzuto's side anymore


Horrible assumption.....[BadWord] stepped in as interim boss for the Rizzuto organization once Renda and Nick Jr were gone.

He was the boss of St Leonard and had an iron grip on a lot restos in Montreal. Many people were happy to see him go.


I'm sure we're all aware of that. But you'll be surprised to find out where Cun trera falls today.


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totally false that [BadWord] was not on rizzutos side anymore. Everyone knows [BadWord] would never turn on the rizzutos. Total BS.

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Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
totally false that [BadWord] was not on rizzutos side anymore. Everyone knows [BadWord] would never turn on the rizzutos. Total BS.



Exactly.......either way he`s dead now and it doesnt make much of a difference.

The Arcuris might be the next target, but that`s just a guess.

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Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: m2w
lo presti and pietrantonio are not allied of the rizzuto's, it's evident it's a war between rizzuto loyalists and bonanno zips who want take over montreal
i also think at this point that cun trera was not on rizzuto's side anymore


Horrible assumption.....Cun trera stepped in as interim boss for the Rizzuto organization once Renda and Nick Jr were gone.

He was the boss of St Leonard and had an iron grip on a lot restos in Montreal. Many people were happy to see him go.


I'm sure we're all aware of that. But you'll be surprised to find out where Cun trera falls today.


Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
totally false that cun trera was not on rizzutos side anymore. Everyone knows Cun trera would never turn on the rizzutos. Total BS.



Exactly.......either way he`s dead now and it doesnt make much of a difference.

The Arcuris might be the next target, but that`s just a guess.


Dave:

I think you and carmela have similar views about the situation in Montreal, specifically about the behind-the-scenes players who are not in Quebec and about their discreet manoeuvring.

For example, carmela can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that she, like you, recognizes the significance of the interaction in the last few years between Giuseppe "Big Joe" Cun trera of the Toronto area (Sicilian Cosa Nostra) and Giuseppe Coluccio of Marina di Gioiosa Ionica ('ndrangheta).

carmela, I want to emphasize that, as I wrote above, you should correct me if I'm wrong. I also apologize in advance if I've misinterpreted your view.

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Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
totally false that [BadWord] was not on rizzutos side anymore. Everyone knows [BadWord] would never turn on the rizzutos. Total BS.



Exactly.......either way he`s dead now and it doesnt make much of a difference.

The Arcuris might be the next target, but that`s just a guess.


Or the Arcuri's are behind all this.

Dave, just for the record, you heard that LoPresti was told to cool down, he didn't, and he was killed. According to you're sources it were Sicilians who warned LoPresti. So these Sicilians wouldn't happen to be the Arcuri's? Are Sicilians fighting each other? Or did the Sicilians told LoPresti to cool down and killed him, while also battling other groups at the same time? Or is it that LoPresti was told to cool down by his friends and then killed by another group? Please be more specific.

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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
totally false that [BadWord] was not on rizzutos side anymore. Everyone knows [BadWord] would never turn on the rizzutos. Total BS.



Exactly.......either way he`s dead now and it doesnt make much of a difference.

The Arcuris might be the next target, but that`s just a guess.


Or the Arcuri's are behind all this.

Dave, just for the record, you heard that LoPresti was told to cool down, he didn't, and he was killed. According to you're sources it were Sicilians who warned LoPresti. So these Sicilians wouldn't happen to be the Arcuri's? Are Sicilians fighting each other? Or did the Sicilians told LoPresti to cool down and killed him, while also battling other groups at the same time? Or is it that LoPresti was told to cool down by his friends and then killed by another group? Please be more specific.



All I heard from Sicilian sources was that Lopresti was being told to cool down and not be so rash. I can`t expand more than that. He was told by his own people, Cattolichese, that he should lay low for a bit.

Hope that helps.

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Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: m2w
lo presti and pietrantonio are not allied of the rizzuto's, it's evident it's a war between rizzuto loyalists and bonanno zips who want take over montreal
i also think at this point that cun trera was not on rizzuto's side anymore


Horrible assumption.....Cun trera stepped in as interim boss for the Rizzuto organization once Renda and Nick Jr were gone.

He was the boss of St Leonard and had an iron grip on a lot restos in Montreal. Many people were happy to see him go.


I'm sure we're all aware of that. But you'll be surprised to find out where Cun trera falls today.


Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
totally false that cun trera was not on rizzutos side anymore. Everyone knows Cun trera would never turn on the rizzutos. Total BS.



Exactly.......either way he`s dead now and it doesnt make much of a difference.

The Arcuris might be the next target, but that`s just a guess.


Dave:

I think you and carmela have similar views about the situation in Montreal, specifically about the behind-the-scenes players who are not in Quebec and about their discreet manoeuvring.

For example, carmela can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that she, like you, recognizes the significance of the interaction in the last few years between Giuseppe "Big Joe" Cun trera of the Toronto area (Sicilian Cosa Nostra) and Giuseppe Coluccio of Marina di Gioiosa Ionica ('ndrangheta).

carmela, I want to emphasize that, as I wrote above, you should correct me if I'm wrong. I also apologize in advance if I've misinterpreted your view.



The whole [BadWord]-Coluccio interaction is a key factor in all of this, even though some people might disagree. The true Sicilian Cosa Nostra members in NYC and Canada who are not Rizzuto loyalists anymore seem to have very close ties to the Siderno Group, which just so happens to be a major cocaine distributor.

Also of importance, many Palermo families are now tied to the ndrangheta or affiliated with them, mainly for the purpose of drug trafficking. I dont think one can overlook these international factors.

As was reported by somebody on the real deal, Rizzuto had become a sort of Canadian super-boss before his arrest for the Italian clans in Canada. Once he was arrested and his family indicted in 2006, both internal and external forces decided to clean house.

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Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
totally false that [BadWord] was not on rizzutos side anymore. Everyone knows [BadWord] would never turn on the rizzutos. Total BS.


maybe yes, maybe not, according to the articles every single people killed was rizzuto ally and it's impossible
bruni, di salvo, del peschio, [BadWord], montagna etc, etc, yeah all members of montreal mafia but who really knows if they are still rizzuto allies?
like i said before the rizzuto's killed lo presti's father so it's plausible, VERY plausible he was not on the rizzuto's side

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Rizzutos didn't kill Joe Lopresti. Gerlando Sciascia did. Sciascia was a Captain and Joe and Vito were Bonanno made members.

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Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
Rizzutos didn't kill Joe Lopresti. Gerlando Sciascia did. Sciascia was a Captain and Joe and Vito were Bonanno made members.


But LoPresti was supposedly very close to the Rizzutos, as was Sciascia. Wouldn't that murder have affected the relationship between Sciascia and the Rizzutos? When Sciascia was killed, the Rizzutos were supposedly upset about that.


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Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: m2w
lo presti and pietrantonio are not allied of the rizzuto's, it's evident it's a war between rizzuto loyalists and bonanno zips who want take over montreal
i also think at this point that cun trera was not on rizzuto's side anymore


Horrible assumption.....Cun trera stepped in as interim boss for the Rizzuto organization once Renda and Nick Jr were gone.

He was the boss of St Leonard and had an iron grip on a lot restos in Montreal. Many people were happy to see him go.


I'm sure we're all aware of that. But you'll be surprised to find out where Cun trera falls today.


Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
totally false that cun trera was not on rizzutos side anymore. Everyone knows Cun trera would never turn on the rizzutos. Total BS.



Exactly.......either way he`s dead now and it doesnt make much of a difference.

The Arcuris might be the next target, but that`s just a guess.


Dave:

I think you and carmela have similar views about the situation in Montreal, specifically about the behind-the-scenes players who are not in Quebec and about their discreet manoeuvring.

For example, carmela can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that she, like you, recognizes the significance of the interaction in the last few years between Giuseppe "Big Joe" Cun trera of the Toronto area (Sicilian Cosa Nostra) and Giuseppe Coluccio of Marina di Gioiosa Ionica ('ndrangheta).

carmela, I want to emphasize that, as I wrote above, you should correct me if I'm wrong. I also apologize in advance if I've misinterpreted your view.


I'm on board with all of this. My feelings parallel eurodave's a great deal. But everytime something else happens up there, my head spins just a bit more.

antimafia, you are one of the greatest posters I've come across, between all your knowledge, coupled with your eloquence and politeness in your posts. You know I don't throw around compliments, but I'm always in awe of you.


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[quote=m2w]lo presti and pietrantonio are not allied of the rizzuto's, it's evident it's a war between rizzuto loyalists and bonanno zips who want take over montreal
i also think at this point that cun trera was not on rizzuto's side anymore


Horrible assumption.....Cun trera stepped in as interim boss for the Rizzuto organization once Renda and Nick Jr were gone.

He was the boss of St Leonard and had an iron grip on a lot restos in Montreal. Many people were happy to see him go.


I'm sure we're all aware of that. But you'll be surprised to find out where Cun trera falls today.


Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
totally false that cun trera was not on rizzutos side anymore. Everyone knows Cun trera would never turn on the rizzutos. Total BS.



Exactly.......either way he`s dead now and it doesnt make much of a difference.

The Arcuris might be the next target, but that`s just a guess.


Dave:

I think you and carmela have similar views about the situation in Montreal, specifically about the behind-the-scenes players who are not in Quebec and about their discreet manoeuvring.

For example, carmela can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that she, like you, recognizes the significance of the interaction in the last few years between Giuseppe "Big Joe" Cun trera of the Toronto area (Sicilian Cosa Nostra) and Giuseppe Coluccio of Marina di Gioiosa Ionica ('ndrangheta).

carmela, I want to emphasize that, as I wrote above, you should correct me if I'm wrong. I also apologize in advance if I've misinterpreted your view.


I'm on board with all of this. My feelings parallel eurodave's a great deal. But everytime something else happens up there, my head spins just a bit more.

antimafia, you are one of the greatest posters I've come across, between all your knowledge, coupled with your eloquence and politeness in your posts. You know I don't throw around compliments, but I'm always in awe of you. [/quote]

Good point...........with all the recent murders or attempted hits, I'm also getting a headache from trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together.

Time will tell.

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why the hell aren't these guys taking it to the mattresses already? Its obvious it's a full on war at this point, why aren't they underground? I certainly wouldn't be grabbing a bite to eat at night time at a restaurant.

How are hit men just running up on all these guys?

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When Vito begins throwing his millions at assassins for vengeance it's gonna get even uglier in Montreal. There are years to come. It's probably already happening. Think about it. The rizzutos were global. Not some US crew trying to make a dollar. It's gonna happen if they don't get him. And believe me he's organizing.

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Lopresti became a liability. He had a substance abuse problem. This didn't sit well with George.

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Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
When Vito begins throwing his millions at assassins for vengeance it's gonna get even uglier in Montreal. There are years to come. It's probably already happening. Think about it. The rizzutos were global. Not some US crew trying to make a dollar. It's gonna happen if they don't get him. And believe me he's organizing.


At this point, they'll probably get him.

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Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
When Vito begins throwing his millions at assassins for vengeance it's gonna get even uglier in Montreal. There are years to come. It's probably already happening. Think about it. The rizzutos were global. Not some US crew trying to make a dollar. It's gonna happen if they don't get him. And believe me he's organizing.


How could he organize from jail?


"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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