Originally Posted By: m2w
the whole actual gambino's and bonanno's administrations are formed by zips, so yeah they are in zips hands


That's news to me.

In the Gambino family, Cefalu is from the "Sicilian wing" but he has been in the U.S. for decades and was made into the Gambino family in 1990. Squitieri and Vernace aren't part of the Sicilian faction.

In the Bonanno family, Badalamenti is also a local guy. As is Graziano (if he's still consigliere). And even Montagna only lived in Sicily briefly before coming to the U.S. as a kid, later getting made into the Bonanno family in 1989.

For all the talk over the years about the zips taking over the local families, there hasn't been much evidence of it. Like I said, a handful have risen high up but that's it. In fact, you can probably count them on one hand - Sal Catalano and Sal Montagna for the Bonannos. John Gambino and Dom Cefalu for the Gambinos. Frank Guarraci in Jersey. Stanfa in Philadelphia.

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nobody knows surely the actual genovese head it could be the zip de vita


Are you talking about Genovese Jersey capo Silvio Devita? The latest reports, for what they're worth, have the top guys as Mangano, Bellomo, Muscarello, and Dentico. All local guys.

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ndrangheta is a little stronger than cosa nostra in europe and australia not worldwide, cosa nostra is far stronger in the US, canada, south america, africa... so i think cosa nostra is still stronger worldwide


I agree that Cosa Nostra has a bigger presence in the U.S. And it may still have in Canada although that could be changing. The 'Ndrangheta has just as strong, if not stronger, presence in South America now; including better drug connections. The 'Ndrangheta is certainly bigger in Australia. In Africa it's probably a toss up. But most importantly, the 'Ndrangheta is stronger in Italy and in Europe as a whole.

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italian sources claiming ndrangheta is the strongest group are usually calabrian prosecutor... anyway yes it's probably stronger in europe now but it doesn't control 80% of cocaine like somebody claims it's impossible it leaves 20% for sicilians, napolitans, turkish, russians it's a total joke like the stupid claim albanians control 80% of heroin leaving 20% to turkish lol


Even without getting caught up in exact percentages, it's obvious the 'Ndrangheta has taken the dominant role in the drug trade as far as Italian OC is considered. While the Sicilians have been marginalized compared to where they were in the past. During Provenzano's reign, there were a lot of reports how the Cosa Nostra in Sicily began to focus more on local rackets such as public works contracts, extortion, etc.


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