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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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04/28/11 10:30 AM
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Amuso has gotten alot of credit where it is NOT deserved, and some that is. I will explain:
Because Gaspipe was such a physcopath and then flipped people starting giving Amuso respect. While they were both on the street together it was thought that Gaspipe was the brains behind the family and Vic was his puppet.
After all the Bullshit got sorted out, Gaspipe flipped and Amuso stood up to a life sentence and people started giving Amuso the credit that Gaspipe got while they were on the street together.
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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04/28/11 03:39 PM
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Amuso is your typical drug dealing, self absorbed, dishonest, low life, murdering gangster. He is really not that different from any of the other idiots that choose that life.
Best way to catch the smart ones? Get an idiot working for them.
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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I think Vic has demonstrated himself to be an individual that chose a different life, and lived up to everything he knew he was getting himself into. I don't understand the debate of who was smarter - Vic or Casso - both are in prison for the rest of their lives. But only Vic can say he lived by his (own) set of principles. Yeah, but Casso will spend the rest of his life with the shame of being a rat, more regret than just being in prison. That and Casso is in ADX, Amuso at USP Allenwood, I believe (Stanfa's there too). Casso even over shadowed Amuso on the streets. Though I've always though of the Lucchese's as way below the radar than the other 4 families. Anyone know the full details of Casso dealin' drugs in the PC prison he was at?
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
[Re: Dwalin2011]
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It's one to live with the thought or shame of flipping while in a small town in Montana, quite another when your staring at slabs of concrete in your cell. It's more of a regret feeling. In Casso's situation, flipping or not flipping, he'd still be in prison. I don't think he has interaction with other inmates, which must make him wonder, if he didn't flip and instead went to another USP instead of USP/ADX Florence he'd be less regretful.
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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Don't know the details of him dealin' drugs. And is Casso really living with the shame of flipping, or are you hoping that he is living with the shame of flipping? I don't think he has ever lamented flipping; in Carlo's book he does lament having gone into "the life." Not trying to be contentious, just asking a question. well Casso does regret flipping in that book he talks about how one day they were transferring him from prisons and out of chance he wound up on the same van as Vic Amuso who was also being moved around during the transfer, Amuso looked him in the eyes and was like I can tell you regret flipping,etc and Casso explained to him what happened with the feds and how they reneged on his deal and he did regret it in that casso mobsters episode you can hear casso in the end being pissed that he made a deal with the govt and they broke it, hes like "the govt on a handshake? fuhgehabbouitttttt"
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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12/13/11 06:31 PM
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Wasn't he given 'em bullshit information on purpose?
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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12/13/11 09:42 PM
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^^^the govt says he gave them some bs info, but idk im not sure, he claims the govt ostracized him cause he said gravano was a drug dealer and the govt didnt want to hear that about their star turncoat and with that the gotti conviction so they played casso From what I got out of Five Families, he only pulled that out after he was not slated to testify against Gigante. Did he ever bring it up before that letter?
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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^^^the govt says he gave them some bs info, but idk im not sure, he claims the govt ostracized him cause he said gravano was a drug dealer and the govt didnt want to hear that about their star turncoat and with that the gotti conviction so they played casso From what I got out of Five Families, he only pulled that out after he was not slated to testify against Gigante. Did he ever bring it up before that letter? yea he did before and after the letter
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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12/14/11 04:28 AM
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^^^the govt says he gave them some bs info, but idk im not sure, he claims the govt ostracized him cause he said gravano was a drug dealer and the govt didnt want to hear that about their star turncoat and with that the gotti conviction so they played casso I only thought of Gotti being the drug dealer in the Gambino crews at that time. I mean I know other Gambino crews dealt, i.e. the Cherry Hill's. I always thought that Gotti was the run that dealt or at least got Sammy into it.
From what I got out of Five Families, he only pulled that out after he was not slated to testify against Gigante. Did he ever bring it up before that letter?
Gigante went on trial in what, '97, right? Dying in prison in 2005. I think Casso was already doing life by then.
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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I only thought of Gotti being the drug dealer in the Gambino crews at that time. I mean I know other Gambino crews dealt, i.e. the Cherry Hill's. I always thought that Gotti was the run that dealt or at least got Sammy into it. Even Gotti didn't have much direct involvement in drugs. It was his brother Gene, Angelo Ruggiero, and John Carneglia that were more directly involved. And even if Gravano had been involved in a marijuana deal, like Casso alleged, he was certainly never big into drugs either. He made most of his money from construction, nightclubs and other legit businesses, and loansharking.
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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12/14/11 09:48 AM
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Was Gotti ever close with Squitieri? Speaking of, Frankos spoke very highly of Squitieri, did time and worked with him. Half of Gravano's book is him talkin about his construction businesses.
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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I only thought of Gotti being the drug dealer in the Gambino crews at that time. I mean I know other Gambino crews dealt, i.e. the Cherry Hill's. I always thought that Gotti was the run that dealt or at least got Sammy into it. Even Gotti didn't have much direct involvement in drugs. It was his brother Gene, Angelo Ruggiero, and John Carneglia that were more directly involved. And even if Gravano had been involved in a marijuana deal, like Casso alleged, he was certainly never big into drugs either. He made most of his money from construction, nightclubs and other legit businesses, and loansharking. i think we all know that gravano was never huge into drugs during his time with gambino's you have any insight on what made him get into ecstasy with a bunch of kids and family members in Arizona?
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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I only thought of Gotti being the drug dealer in the Gambino crews at that time. I mean I know other Gambino crews dealt, i.e. the Cherry Hill's. I always thought that Gotti was the run that dealt or at least got Sammy into it. Even Gotti didn't have much direct involvement in drugs. It was his brother Gene, Angelo Ruggiero, and John Carneglia that were more directly involved. And even if Gravano had been involved in a marijuana deal, like Casso alleged, he was certainly never big into drugs either. He made most of his money from construction, nightclubs and other legit businesses, and loansharking. i think we all know that gravano was never huge into drugs during his time with gambino's you have any insight on what made him get into ecstasy with a bunch of kids and family members in Arizona? not much else to do i dont think theres much labor racketeering, loan sharking, unions, etc out there idk i could be wrong
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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Gigante went on trial in what, '97, right? Dying in prison in 2005. I think Casso was already doing life by then.
His deal was first revoked in 97, and the appeal was rejected in 98. Looking through Google News, I'm not sure what year a sentence was imposed.
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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i think we all know that gravano was never huge into drugs during his time with gambino's you have any insight on what made him get into ecstasy with a bunch of kids and family members in Arizona? I really don't think it was for financial reasons. He didn't "need" the money. In my opinion, he missed the life and that was as close as he was going to get to it again.
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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Ivy, that's fascinating. Makes a lot of sense too, I remember that Diane Sawyer video that was posted last week, and the remarks about that money he was sitting on in Witness Protection and his smugness of it in regards to the questionaries with the victim's daughters.
I bet his family still has a lot of it too.
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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I've brought that up before best quote ever..All my life ive done business with the worst people you could ever meet on a handshake do biz wit the government on a handshake..fugettabout lol..the brooklyn accent and his demeanor makes it even funnier Don't know the details of him dealin' drugs. And is Casso really living with the shame of flipping, or are you hoping that he is living with the shame of flipping? I don't think he has ever lamented flipping; in Carlo's book he does lament having gone into "the life." Not trying to be contentious, just asking a question. well Casso does regret flipping in that book he talks about how one day they were transferring him from prisons and out of chance he wound up on the same van as Vic Amuso who was also being moved around during the transfer, Amuso looked him in the eyes and was like I can tell you regret flipping,etc and Casso explained to him what happened with the feds and how they reneged on his deal and he did regret it in that casso mobsters episode you can hear casso in the end being pissed that he made a deal with the govt and they broke it, hes like "the govt on a handshake? fuhgehabbouitttttt"
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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It's amazing that this guy was boss for 25 years up until just recently and he is probably even more of a mystery than even Salerno, Squint and Corallo. I agree that there's not much written about him, other than Casso's version of things. But just for the record, the Lucchese powerbase has been back in the Bronx/Harlem/Westchester faction of the family for a LOOOOONG time now. That 25 years as boss was really in name only . His brother Bobby is a ghost too. Made man, wasn't he? Yeah, Bobby was a made guy. He may have been an acting skipper for awhile, too.
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Re: Vittorio "little Vic" Amuso
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The amazing thing, pizza, is the fact that people read the gaspipe book, take everything at face value and just talk about what a genius gaspipe must have been.
The fact is we only have one account. And the account we have is the functional equivalent of politicians glorified auto-biographies about their lives.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison. I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate... for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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