Originally Posted By: Mussolini14
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: Mussolini14
Good explanation Sonny. Do you think Montanga's killers got the nod from the Bonanno's? If Sal was the Montreal capo they must have been expecting a decent amount of residual tribute money and they must be pretty agitated to see those plan foiled unless some arrangements were made before Sal was whacked to keep the cash flowing to NY.


I think Montagna decided that he should become the new caporegime in Montreal with the Bonanno family's approval. I think he may have even got some support, maybe from his old crew.

But I think it's hard to imagine that anyone from Montreal would have asked the Bonannos for approval to murder Montagna. They would have probably signed their own deathwarrant if they did. And besides, if Montagna was taken out because Montreal mafiosi didn't want an outsider to call the shots they would have never asked the Bonannos for approval in the first place.

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
The idea that an American was going to take over in Montreal is as ridiculous as the idea of a Canadian coming to Brooklyn or the Bronx and doing the same.


Not ridiculous at all considering the history between the Bonannos and Montreal. Vito Rizzuto is still a Bonanno member as was his father, and they came from Sicily. Carmine Galante came from New York and took over. Vic Cotroni was a Bonanno captain and Joe Di Maulo and Domenico Arcuri are likely also Bonanno members.

The writers of Mafia Inc., two journalists from Quebec with decades of experience, thought this was a plausible scenario. The idea that Montagna would take over in Montreal came from them, more then likely based on police reports.

And it's not like Montagna walked in and took over, it probably took a lot of negotiating and killings. I'm just saying...


I know many people on the boards don't think the Bonanno's were/are involved in the Montreal war but IMO if the hit on Sal occurred without permission I think they Bonanno's will strike back. It seems like it is much easier for mobsters to get away with murder in Canada and the Bonanno's have always been known for their close relationship with Sicily. Contrary to popular belief, the Rizzuto's are not the only Bonanno members with Sicilian connections and gaining entry into Canada is much easier than gaining access to the USA. It will be very interesting if we finally find out who the actual shooters were particularly in the Nick SR and Cun trera hits. I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn that the trigger men were Zips. On the other hand IMO there is a very sound basis to the speculation that Violi's sons did the work, especially in the Nick SR hit, as Andre Cedilot and Andre Noel disclose in Mafia Inc. I wonder where they get all their info? They must be close with members of the Montreal detective squad working the cases.



The Violi-Hamilton-Ontario involvement goes back to 2005 when Piccirilli-D'Amico's wanted to take down the Rizzutos and go to war.

The Bonnano-Sicilian element is minor in this case and what were seeing here in Montreal is much like what happened in the States where there was a clash with the Zips and other Italian-American within the LCN.

People got fed up of the Rizzuto hegemony and there was a coalition of sorts to get rid of them. No more Sicilian domination in Montreal. They will have to share the pie with others now.