The Violis and Hamilton are taking their revenge and it won't stop until Vito is realeased in 2012

I think Vito was very lucky to be in jail when this happened. When he comes out several other Rizzuto guys will probably also be released.

It would be very intersting what's going to happen. It looks like the alliance against the Rizzutos is starting to fracture.

Vito was unlucky to have NYC mobsters rat on him for an old murder.

Blood and murder is bad for business in general and that's why the Violis and Hamilton are behind this. Because vendetta has no price.

Maybe he shouldn't have commited that murder in the first place, but that's an entirely different discussion. Anyway, he rightfully paid for his crimes.



I think it would have happened nonetheless. The Rizzutos were severely weakened by operation Colisee. And because like you said, it was a vendetta.

Rizzutos have crazy money even today. Their ties to the Caruana- Cun treras are global. Forget Montreal. He will live comfortably for the rest of his life, assuming he goes to Aruba or somewhere. He knows if he stays in Montreal he's a dead man. They sold their house, so he doesn't plan on going back there. I've said it before, if Italy doesn't get him, he'll retire to Aruba most likely.

So you expect that Rizzuto will nog seek revenge?

caruana- cun trera are and were usually intermediate between south american shipments (especially from venezuela) and other groups, no matter where the drug is seized

they were intermediate also for ndrangheta and other groups

[quote=m2w]the rizzuto family is maybe dead but not the caruana- cun trera and somebody (probably montagna) killed one of his relatives agostino [/quote

The Caruana-Cun-t-rera clan is sidelining with whoever is going to be a major narcotics player.

For now it seems the Siderno Group is exactly that, no wonder big Joe and Joe Coluccio were together.

The Inzerillos were trying to re-open drug routes between Palermo, the Gambinos and the Siderno Group, not the Rizzuto-Caruana-[BadWord]'s.

That should tell you something.

Dave:

Have you read portions of the February 7, 2008 Old Bridge document prepared by the Direzione Distrettuale Antimafia of Palermo?

One link to the online document is

http://static.repubblica.it/palermo/pdf/Old_bridge.pdf

and there is a discussion on pp. 20 and 21 of Filippo Casamento and Giovanni Inzerillo's contact with individuals in the Toronto area for several days in January 2004, notably a 9-hour behind-closed-doors meeting at the Da Peppino restaurant at 2201 Finch Avenue West, in Toronto, on January 25.

Are you aware of any further reporting, anywhere, about this meeting, especially about who was in the meeting?

On p. 105 of the aforementioned document is the following:

Al riguardo, si richiamano i contatti telefonici e personali registrati in Palermo nell’estate del 2004, con soggetti provenienti dal Canada, quali RONDINI Iulian^66 e MORDOCCA Julian^67, indicati come “vicini” alla famiglia mafiosa dei COMMISSO, ed orbitanti nel sodalizio criminale canadese facente capo a SCARCELLA Peter di Toronto, quest’ultimo legato all’organizzazione criminale operante in Montreal, capeggiata da RIZZUTO Vito.

The above indicates that in Palermo in the summer of 2004, it was the Sicilians' turn to host a meeting, with telephone and personal contact being made with Canadians Iulian Rondini (actually born in Rumania) and Julian Mordocca (born in Toronto). The confusing part of the above excerpt is that you can't determine whether Rondini and Mordocca are associates who are "attached" to the Toronto-area Commissos (Siderno Group) but also known in Peter Scarcella's circles, or whether Rondini and Mordocca are actually a part of Scarcella's group and are known in the Commissos' circles. One reason for the confusion is that, at that point in time, Scarcella and the Commissos had known one another for close to 25 years, possibly longer.

Regardless, do you know whether the Rizzuto organization circa 2004, or afterward, lost the opportunity to work with the Gambino Family in New York because the Gambinos preferred to work with the Siderno Group in Toronto and overseas in Italy?