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Colombo Crime Family? #621521
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I read somewhere they have less than 40 made members,and that they are gonna dissapear soon,and for 1-2 years its goona be 4 Families not 5 Families.Can someone,with more knowledge than me explain how things are ?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Colombo Crime Family? [Re: Strax] #621523
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where did u read that?

they have wayyy more than 40 made guys, more like upward of 100

the question is how many are active and on the street?

it would be safe to assume its less than 70 or maybe even 50 made guys active on the street now


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At some random forum i come across while i was searching for current stats of 5 Families.So they are pretty weak today?

On the same forum i read that the current stats of other families are pretty bad.But still they are listed on 10th place in a list of strongest mafia groups.


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Re: Colombo Crime Family? [Re: Strax] #621530
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Originally Posted By: Strax
But still they are listed on 10th place in a list of strongest mafia groups.


Can you post that list out? Cheers.

Re: Colombo Crime Family? [Re: Strax] #621559
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Lists of "the most powerful whatever" get put out all the time. Not that they're official or anything. Ranking organized crime groups isn't like ranking tennis players.

As for the Colombos, they're far from finished. But there are several posters on certain forums who like to engage in endless hyperbole regarding the Colombo family; referring to them as a "sinking ship" and whatnot. If somebody who was not familiar with the mob was to read what some of these guys say on a regular basis, they'd think the Colombos were 6 months away from being defunct. Even though that's not the case. The Colombos may be the smallest and most geographically confined family in New York but they're still much larger and stronger than any remaining family outside the city.


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Re: Colombo Crime Family? [Re: IvyLeague] #621560
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Ivy, are they mostly in Dyker Heights?

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The Colombo's need to hire a pest exterminator because they have something of a probem with Rats!

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Originally Posted By: LordSlickNutz
Ivy, are they mostly in Dyker Heights?


When I say "geographically confined," I mean that most of the Colombo family's presence is in Brooklyn and Long Island. With much less in other part of the New York metropolitan area. They are much less spread out than the other families by comparison.


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Re: Colombo Crime Family? [Re: Strax] #621575
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But still i am not sure that 5 Families will ever dissapear,but thats just my opinion.

Here is the list i came across:

Top 10 criminal organisations

1 Solntsevskaya Bratva

2 Yamaguchi-gumi

3 ‘Ndrangheta

4 D Company

5 14K

6 Sicilian Mafia

7 Dai Huen Jai

8 Tijuana Cartel

9 United Bamboo

10 The US Mafia ‘The Five Families’

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Re: Colombo Crime Family? [Re: GaryH] #621589
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Originally Posted By: GaryH
The Colombo's need to hire a pest exterminator because they have something of a probem with Rats!


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Re: Colombo Crime Family? [Re: Strax] #621595
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Its not like they are falling apart, they still make millions a year from various rackets. 5 Families did not emerge in one night, nor will they be gone in one night. It took a decade to build, and it will take much more work than that to destroy the Colombos. Besides, its not in the interest of the remaining families to let the Colombos sink.


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For some reason, they just can't stop killing each others. That's what you get for a Family full of tough guys.

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Well that only started after the 1960s, before that they were the most stable family while the other had internal wars for leadership. No one can guarantee that the Gambinos or the Genoveses wont have internal fight in the near future, it happened to all the families. The Colombos were unlucky, nowadays there isnt internal fighting but bombardment from the outside.


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Technically, you can also counted the Bonanno and Lucchese as having very stable leadership groups before the 60s.

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Speaking of the Colombo, does anyone know what happened to "Donnie Shacks" and "Charlie Moose"? Last I heard, Donnie is in Hollywood and Charlie is in Vegas.

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Originally Posted By: Mukremin
Its not like they are falling apart, they still make millions a year from various rackets. 5 Families did not emerge in one night, nor will they be gone in one night. It took a decade to build, and it will take much more work than that to destroy the Colombos. Besides, its not in the interest of the remaining families to let the Colombos sink.



I could not agree more. The other families will have joint ventures and depend on the Colombo's. I strongly agree with Mukermin more. IMO the Colombo's are far from over. They are paying for the inter family war back in the 90's. This will pass and they will regroup. IMO

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Also, It would benefit the for Persico to give the reins over to someone on the streets to strengthen the family. IMO Wild Bill would have been a perfect person for this job thats why the Persico's whacked him. IMO

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Yeah, he was a good candidate. So was Orena... But there are other good replacements for Persico. And we must not forget that the government cant keep hammering the mafia families, there are other things on their agenda to.


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The Colombo's are paying for past deeds but this will pass and they will re-group. Is Orena serving life or just a very long sentence?

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Serving life, if Orena remained the boss he would surely follow a different route. The Gottis and the Persicos have brought tremendous damage to Cosa Nostra.


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Re: Colombo Crime Family? [Re: Strax] #621657
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well you could call the colombo family the sick man of new york. tongue

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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Lists of "the most powerful whatever" get put out all the time. Not that they're official or anything. Ranking organized crime groups isn't like ranking tennis players.

As for the Colombos, they're far from finished. But there are several posters on certain forums who like to engage in endless hyperbole regarding the Colombo family; referring to them as a "sinking ship" and whatnot. If somebody who was not familiar with the mob was to read what some of these guys say on a regular basis, they'd think the Colombos were 6 months away from being defunct. Even though that's not the case. The Colombos may be the smallest and most geographically confined family in New York but they're still much larger and stronger than any remaining family outside the city.


this is true

but im hesitant to say more than the Outfit only because even today not much is known about them, for all we know they could be chugging along raking in cash with no real probs since family secrets

besides sarno going to the can that family is still for the most part out the headlines


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Originally Posted By: LordSlickNutz
Speaking of the Colombo, does anyone know what happened to "Donnie Shacks" and "Charlie Moose"? Last I heard, Donnie is in Hollywood and Charlie is in Vegas.


Donnie Shacks is still in California. Charlie Moose was charge in the Operating Engineers case that involved the Genovese and Colombo families a while back.


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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Donnie Shacks is still in California. Charlie Moose was charge in the Operating Engineers case that involved the Genovese and Colombo families a while back.


Ivy, would you considered Donnie Shacks active for the Colombo? Or is he allowed to retire with to pursue the enterprise of making C grade movies and dating size zero girlfriends?

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i would consider both guys "inactive" due to age/health reasons

anybody know anything about casso's plan to have a faction of the colombos merge with the lucchese as his solution to the colombo war?

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Generally speaking, it seems when mob guys from back east move out west, especially in their later years, they are more or less retired. In other words, inactive for all intents and purposes.


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you guy's have probably seen this already, but just in case you haven't ..


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I saw the topic here on GangsterBB named "2008 Family Charts" all if thats true,all families have about 50-100 more members than they have now.Some died,some are captured by the FBI.But my question now is for like 5-10 years they will all have about 50-100 members or i just talk bullsh*s???


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Originally Posted By: DJN
you guy's have probably seen this already, but just in case you haven't ..

nice post

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Originally Posted By: Strax
I saw the topic here on GangsterBB named "2008 Family Charts" all if thats true,all families have about 50-100 more members than they have now.Some died,some are captured by the FBI.But my question now is for like 5-10 years they will all have about 50-100 members or i just talk bullsh*s???


Most of the members today are old, the size wont drop like that in 10 years. And there are young wannabes who will get made in the near future to fill up the ranks, but the families may choose to keep things small. Like in Chicago.


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