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Sal Montagna shot and killed! #621369
11/24/11 03:17 PM
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saw this on the real deal forum here is the link

The man killed Thursday morning in a suburb north of Montreal is Salvatore Montagna, a man thought to be next in line to lead Montreal's mafia underworld, sources told QMI Agency. Montagna, who is originally from Montreal but grew up in Sicily, was interim leader of New York's Bonanno crime family.
He was deported from the U.S. in 2009 and moved to Montreal.
Montagna, 40, was nicknamed "the iron worker" because of the metal-working company he owned in the Bronx.
He played an important role in the fall of Montreal's Rizzuto clan, which until recently, allegedly controlled a large part of the city's organized crime.
His murder could be tied to the attempted murder last September of businessman and reported Vito Rizzuto associate, Raynald Desjardins.
Police pulled Montagna's body from a river north of Montreal Thursday morning after witnesses reported seeing a man running towards the water, diving in and hearing gunshots.
The man's body had laceration marks, police said.
A witness said he heard a loud bang followed by the sound of breaking glass.
"I saw a man running towards the river," said the witness, who did not want to be identified. "I asked him what he was doing, he didn't respond."
Another witness reported a white car quickly fleeing the area.
Police have established a large security perimeter around the area as the investigation continues.

http://www.lfpress.com/news/canada/2011/11/24/19015601.html

i got some pics of a whacked out montagna on my blog, they seem to not be going up here check them out below

http://fivefamiliesnyc.blogspot.com/

Last edited by Dapper_Don; 11/24/11 04:49 PM.

Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Dapper_Don] #621382
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damn who the hell is behind this all

Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Dapper_Don] #621384
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Wow,I guess the conspiracy theories will begin.

Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: ronnie_little] #621386
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Could this mean that Vito is striking back?


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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Dapper_Don] #621388
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http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/24/reputed-montreal-mob-boss-killed

thats a video of authorities trying to revive montagna it is kind of graphic

Last edited by Dapper_Don; 11/24/11 05:04 PM.

Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Dapper_Don] #621389
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hairy it doesnt have to be vito it could be others to like the calabrians or this desjardin guy.

Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Dapper_Don] #621390
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apparently sal was trying to reorganize what was left of the rizzutos and was taken out for doing so prob by the cotronis or whoever it was


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: yigido] #621391
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Originally Posted By: yigido
hairy it doesnt have to be vito it could be others to like the calabrians or this desjardin guy.


I´m not really that familiar with the situation in Montreal. But what is the general opinion? Is this a struggle between two warring factions?


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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: HairyKnuckles] #621392
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I said it once, I said it a million times. Calabrians have taken over Montreal. Cotroni is at the top. Montagna was getting in the way now, apparently, and off he went.

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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Dapper_Don] #621393
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Oh and for the love of God, somebody PLEASE tell JoeyCigars on Real Deal that Tag sends her warmest regards. He'll understand. grin


La madre degli idioti e' sempre incinta.

Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: carmela] #621394
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Originally Posted By: carmela
I said it once, I said it a million times. Calabrians have taken over Montreal. Cotroni is at the top. Montagna was getting in the way now, apparently, and off he went.



I think you're right. Montagna was probably trying to reorganize the Rizzuto clan and he got in the way, as did Lopresti.

Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: HairyKnuckles] #621395
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Originally Posted By: carmela
Oh and for the love of God, somebody PLEASE tell JoeyCigars on Real Deal that Tag sends her warmest regards. He'll understand. grin


He's strangely silent on a thread that's already two pages long despite only being posted a few hours ago.

He's probably in a fetal position rocking back and forth, muttering "Not Sal. Not Sal. Oh God please not Sal"


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Originally Posted By: yigido
hairy it doesnt have to be vito it could be others to like the calabrians or this desjardin guy.


I´m not really that familiar with the situation in Montreal. But what is the general opinion? Is this a struggle between two warring factions?


More like a number of seperate factions involved peripherally or otherwise, although the main thrust seems to be certain Calabrian elements.

Last edited by Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica; 11/24/11 05:37 PM.

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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: eurodave] #621396
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Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: carmela
I said it once, I said it a million times. Calabrians have taken over Montreal. Cotroni is at the top. Montagna was getting in the way now, apparently, and off he went.



I think you're right. Montagna was probably trying to reorganize the Rizzuto clan and he got in the way, as did Lopresti.


I know you're on Real Deal. You look up my username there: tagliafaccia (tag) and you'll see on those threads I have stood constant that Calabrians (Cotroni godfather) is behind the takeover, with some leftover Sicilians falling in line behind. A collaboration, but mainly Calabrian. I always maintained Montagna was NOT the man others were making him out to be. His getting hit was a long time coming.
He couldn't re-organize or take control of his own dinnertable let alone Montreal.


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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: carmela] #621397
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Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: carmela
I said it once, I said it a million times. Calabrians have taken over Montreal. Cotroni is at the top. Montagna was getting in the way now, apparently, and off he went.



I think you're right. Montagna was probably trying to reorganize the Rizzuto clan and he got in the way, as did Lopresti.


I know you're on Real Deal. You look up my username there: tagliafaccia (tag) and you'll see on those threads I have stood constant that Calabrians (Cotroni godfather) is behind the takeover, with some leftover Sicilians falling in line behind. A collaboration, but mainly Calabrian. I always maintained Montagna was NOT the man others were making him out to be. His getting hit was a long time coming.
He couldn't re-organize or take control of his own dinnertable let alone Montreal.



Yeah I figured it was you and I'm sure you know who I am. As for Montagna, you're absolutely spot on. He probably tried, but ultimately the Montreal men refused his leadership. I was even told a year ago before all the Montagna articles that he was rumored to be the new boss. I guess that didn't last long.

Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Dapper_Don] #621399
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This is a real shock to me! So this ends the Bonanno era up there for good, he was the last strong link. I never have thought he would be shot, its clear someone stronger there viewed him as a thread.


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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Mukremin] #621401
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Originally Posted By: Mukremin
This is a real shock to me! So this ends the Bonanno era up there for good, he was the last strong link. I never have thought he would be shot, its clear someone stronger there viewed him as a thread.


Probably the Cotroni-Di Maulo and Ontario clans (Violi-Luppino)

Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Dapper_Don] #621402
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I can truly attest that carmela (Tag) and JoeyCigars were the best of friends. grin

God only knows how many debates, theories, and predictions this latest development will lead to...


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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: IvyLeague] #621403
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
I can truly attest that carmela (Tag) and JoeyCigars were the best of friends. grin

God only knows how many debates, theories, and predictions this latest development will lead to...


Thats for sure, they were one of the few who believed he was going for the top spot and was still overseeing things for the Bonannos.


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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Mukremin] #621405
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Originally Posted By: Mukremin
This is a real shock to me! So this ends the Bonanno era up there for good, he was the last strong link. I never have thought he would be shot, its clear someone stronger there viewed him as a thread.


Obviously some reports have said that he was one of those trying to assert control in the new power vacuum. From my understanding, he was born in Canada but spent most of his life here in the U.S. before the feds kicked him out. That he - the former acting Bonanno boss - could possibly be one of those "in the mix" up there suggests there is/was still some kind of connection. Also, as I've mentioned before, the fact that Rizzuto said he wouldn't take orders from Montagna. What that connection is, is anybody's guess. And it looks to be in a continual state of flux anyway.


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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Dapper_Don] #621406
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We can expect more bodies to fall.. thats for sure. I dont know how the hell it became such a mess up there, no way for us to figure out whos on what side. The shit wont clear up there for months.


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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Dapper_Don] #621412
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Holy shit!

If this wasn't sanctioned by the Bonannos, you could expect some retaliations...


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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Dapper_Don] #621413
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The Bonannos cant do nothing about it, even if they wish. I dont think they would care if he was killed or not, business as usual and life goes on.


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Originally Posted By: Mukremin
The Bonannos cant do nothing about it, even if they wish. I dont think they would care if he was killed or not, business as usual and life goes on.


Amen.


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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: carmela] #621415
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Originally Posted By: carmela
I said it once, I said it a million times. Calabrians have taken over Montreal. Cotroni is at the top. Montagna was getting in the way now, apparently, and off he went.


And which Cotroni would that be? Could you elaborate on this? What makes you think Calabrians are behind all this?

I'm not saying you're wrong, just wondering.


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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: eurodave] #621416
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Originally Posted By: eurodave
Originally Posted By: carmela
I said it once, I said it a million times. Calabrians have taken over Montreal. Cotroni is at the top. Montagna was getting in the way now, apparently, and off he went.



I think you're right. Montagna was probably trying to reorganize the Rizzuto clan and he got in the way, as did Lopresti.


In Mafia Inc it's stated that Montanga was seen meeting with mafia members whom where suspected to be behind the killings.

This could very well be a retaliation.


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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Mukremin] #621417
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Originally Posted By: Mukremin
The Bonannos cant do nothing about it, even if they wish. I dont think they would care if he was killed or not, business as usual and life goes on.


Why could they not? Like I said before, it's not like they don't have the muscle. People lately seem to make the Bonannos as a mickey mouse family. They are still considered to be a viable organization. It could be that they wouldn't care though.


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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: Dapper_Don] #621418
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Hows you doing Carmela(Tag) long time no speak, no one on RD has heard from Joey yet, probably locked himself in his bathroom crying looking at his picture of Sal in his wallet.

For people that dont know me, im a longstanding poster on Real Deal and thought i would see how things are here

Regards


John W

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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: carmela
I said it once, I said it a million times. Calabrians have taken over Montreal. Cotroni is at the top. Montagna was getting in the way now, apparently, and off he went.


And which Cotroni would that be? Could you elaborate on this? What makes you think Calabrians are behind all this?

I'm not saying you're wrong, just wondering.


I already said as much as I'll say on this. I don't like spitting out first names and yeah sure I could be wrong. All I was pointing out is my theories of Calabrian takeover with some Sicilians in tow, is what I still maintain. Little by little all things I've said over the last year+ have come to pass. And Montagna, for sure, had no chance of being at the top of this takeover. I know some see him as some mean badass mobster, whose intelligence is rival to none, but that is far from true.

Aaaaand as I have mentioned plenty times and will repeat once more... Giuseppe Big Joe Cun trera was nowhere to be found when Agostino was gunned down. Nor was he at the funeral. He was back in his hometown of Sicily. Doesn't this seem odd to anyone? cool


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Re: Sal Montagna shot and killed! [Re: HairyKnuckles] #621420
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Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles
Could this mean that Vito is striking back?


I doubt it. There has been reports that recent events (i.e.- failed attempt on Desjardins, Lorenzo Lo presti killed, and even that stockpile of weapons Montreal police found earlier this year) happened because after the elimination of the Rizzutos was complete, the different factions involved couldnt agree on who would now be in charge. Police sources said they were expecting a violent autumn in Montreal and now it is happening. Looks like Sal tried to grab too much power.

To be honest, Im not surprised at all. For some reason, following the attempted hit on Desjardins, I had been expecting this to happen.

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Originally Posted By: John_W
Hows you doing Carmela(Tag) long time no speak, no one on RD has heard from Joey yet, probably locked himself in his bathroom crying looking at his picture of Sal in his wallet.

For people that dont know me, im a longstanding poster on Real Deal and thought i would see how things are here

Regards


John W


John...I miss you!!! Nice to see you again!! Yes, you are a very longstanding, and educated poster on Real Deal. I always valued your opinion. Mainly because it was in line with my own. grin They axed me over there, I'm sure you know. frown

My guess is JoeyCigars is on the next flight to Canada.


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