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Re: Will Anthony Graziano make a move as Boss
[Re: LordSlickNutz]
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Montagna was born in Montreal, Canada[1] in 1971. He was raised in Castellammare del Golfo, Sicily, and became attracted by the United States already as a teenager. Montagna and his family settled in the Bronx, New York, in the mid 1980s, and Montagna became quite attached to the life of crime, violence and corruption. It is unclear when Montagna was inducted into the Bonanno crime family, however, it was during the late 1990s, under the leadership of strong Boss Joseph "Big Joe" Massino that Montagna was overheard in wiretapped conversations between other reputed members of the Bonanno crime family, such as the Underboss, Salvatore "Good Looking Sal" Vitale.
[edit]Sal the Iron Worker
Little is known of Montagna's personal life, only that he got married sometime in the early 1990s to Kellice Gucciardo, relating him to the Gambino and the Genovese crime families by marriage. They had two children, but divorced shortly after the death of a son. He has since remarried to Francesca Carcione and lives in a mansion in Elmont, Long Island with his wife and three daughters. He started a small metalworking company called "Matrix Steel Co.", located at 50 Bogart Street in Bushwick, Brooklyn. Matrix Steel manufactures structural and rail mill products, gray and ductile iron foundry crucibles, foundry converters, casting machines, sizing or embossing presses, foundry mold machines and foundry dies and tooling. It was around this time that the Sicilian-raised Salvatore Montagna was given the nickname, "Sal the Iron Worker".
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In 2002, Montagna was arrested along with the crew of Patrick DeFilippo for illegal gambling and loansharking charges. He refused to answer questions before a grand jury and was charged with criminal contempt. He later pleaded guilty to the charge in 2003, and was placed on probation. It was in late 2003 that US law enforcement and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) listed Montagna as an "Acting Capo" and Caporegime of the Bonanno crime family on behalf of DeFilippo and the Sicilian faction which is based in the Bronx.
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After longtime Bonanno Boss, "Big Joe" Massino became a witness, testifying against 60 of his fellow mobsters, Vincent "Vinny Gorgeous" Basciano was recognized as the reputed Boss of the Bonanno crime family, only to discover that Massino would testify against Basciano as well, shipping him directly off to prison. Around late 2005, Basciano stated that he would promote the Sicilian faction of the old Bonanno crew back in the family's leadership, as Montagna was recognized as the reputed acting boss of the Bonanno crime family from early 2006, and to the present time, with Nicholas "Nicky Mouth" Santora as underboss and Anthony "Fat Tony" Rabito as consigliere, making the "Administration" of the Bonanno crime family once again whole and safe.
As of 2008, Montagna who is at age 36, is still the reputed Acting boss of the Bonannos,[2] controlling the entire Bronx faction of the family, as the Daily News links Montagna to known Sicilian Bonanno official, Baldassare "Baldo" Amato. He resided in a modest home in Elmont, Long Island.
In 2009, Montagna was detained by the USCIS. He is not an American citizen and was deported back to Canada. While in Canada he is currently attempting to gain American residency.
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Re: Will Anthony Graziano make a move as Boss
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Ivy, I hear you. What I am suggesting is that IF Sal did became the boss of the Montreal Family/Sixth Family, would he still answer to guys in New York or would guys like Vinny TV, Graziano, Santoro, Asaro answered to Sal, who was the boss or acting boss of the Bonanno Family before he was deported by the US government. Anyhow, we got a very interesting situation here.
I assume it would be like Joe Bonanno or Lucky Luciano in exile who held some clout but no real power.
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Re: Will Anthony Graziano make a move as Boss
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Montreal brokeaway from the Bonanno's or has Sal the Ironworker gonna bring the back in the fold. Well that's debatable. The only person who said that was Sal Vitale and he was not privy to important matters even though he was the underboss. None of the captains trusted him and Massino went as far as forbidding him to speak with his captains. Furthermore IMO they MOntreal ports were by rights the Bananno's and it is just too much money for Massino to walk away from so easily. Also there were numerous times when Quebecois mafiosi were seen in NY and vice versa well after Sciascia was whacked (Vitale claimed that after Sciascia was killed that ties between NY and Montreal were severe). Nevertheless knowledgeable posters like MickeyMeatballs believe ties were severed after George from Canada was hit an I admit they have a very sound basis for that speculation.
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Re: Will Anthony Graziano make a move as Boss
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Just wondered if he will hit the ground running like Greg Depalma or stay in the shadows. He is very wealthy. Those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it. And if you're a street guy who never learned how NOT to act from Greg DePalma, then you pretty much deserve to die in jail. Just like he did. Greg didn't just "hit the ground running." He hit the ground talking, to anyone who would listen .
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Re: Will Anthony Graziano make a move as Boss
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Ivy, I hear you. What I am suggesting is that IF Sal did became the boss of the Montreal Family/Sixth Family, would he still answer to guys in New York or would guys like Vinny TV, Graziano, Santoro, Asaro answered to Sal, who was the boss or acting boss of the Bonanno Family before he was deported by the US government. Anyhow, we got a very interesting situation here.
I assume it would be like Joe Bonanno or Lucky Luciano in exile who held some clout but no real power. Personally, I don't think it's likely Montagna is going to become the top guy in Montreal. He's only there in the first place because he was deported. And, in any event, he's a member of the Bonanno family. And the Bonanno family is an Italian-American organization. I could see him looking after the family's interests there, if any. But it's not like he's going to run things in New York from Montreal. He was only acting boss after all. One of several in recent years.
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Re: Will Anthony Graziano make a move as Boss
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Assuming that Sal is running Canada and Vinny TV is running the Bonanno in NY. Who answers to who? Or are they independent of each other? After Sciascia was killed, the ties between the Bonanno family and the Montreal faction were severed more or less. The Rizzutos had been running things mostly independently for some time anyway. What was interesting however, is that it later came out that Vito Rizzuto said he wasn't going to answer to Montagna in New York. That he would need to make that clear shows there continued to be some kind of connection between them. But who knows how things will end up in Montreal once the smoke clears. It is more a case of two separate entities now, not one "answering" to the other. Certainly not New York answering to Montreal. The Rizzutos were a faction of the Bonanno family, not the other way around, despite what many "Sixth Family" theories proclaimed. The reason I am skeptical that ties were severed is Because Vitale and Massino are the only ones to say this. Vitale, as stated in the book "The Last Godfather" was not trusted by any of the captains and Massino told him straight up that "they F'ing hate you Sal", so therefore he was not in the loop on most important things. Also in "The Last Godfather" we learn that Massino was not afraid to do the time and only flipped when they threatened to take his wife and daughters houses. IMO Massino heard Vitale's testimony that "Ties were severed after George got hit" to his advantage so the IRS wouldn't come looking and ask him where all the tribute money from the Montreal faction went. Sciascia was hit in 1997 and Massino didn't get arrested until 2004, which means there is 8 years of tribute money he doesn't have to account for. A crew of the Rizzuto's size would probably have to kick up at least 50K a month. I think it quite possibly have been more though, considering that many Banonno's and without fail their administration had a good sense of how much narcotics that crew moved. 50K a month is 600K a year, for 8 years is nearly 5 millions dollars he wouldn't have to worry about the IRS finding nearly as easy. And besides, we're talking about men who kill people over debts of a few thousand dollars so I don't believe for a second that Massino would just walk away from a 20+ member crew that is under his hegemony by rights, and who controls the drug flow into NY, and brings in an estimated $600 000 a year in tribute money. Ivy, I'm interested in hearing your opinion on this.
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Re: Will Anthony Graziano make a move as Boss
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11/22/11 04:48 PM
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speaking of Graziano they just arrested Hector Pagan Reneee's ex and accused him of robbing TG's card game A top Bonanno mobster better straighten out his own family. The former son-in-law of reputed consigliere Anthony (T.G.) Graziano was arrested by federal agents Monday for allegedly setting up the armed robbery of an illegal gambling spot controlled by the Bonanno crime family. Hector Pagan, Jr., was ordered held without bail in connection with the 2009 stickup in Staten Island that netted about $5,000. Pagan, 51, the ex-husband of Graziano’s daughter, Rene, who appears on the reality show “Mob Wives,” hatched the scheme to rob the weekly card game where large amounts of money were wagered, according to the complaint filed in Brooklyn Federal Court. “Pagan threatened one of the victims by pointing his gun directly at one of the victim’s legs,” U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration agent Al Gyenes stated in the complaint. Graziano is serving the last two months of a racketeering conviction in a halfway house and is already back in trouble with the feds. He was photographed by agents last month meeting at a Staten Island diner with another Bonanno wiseguy, which is a violation that is expected to earn him more prison time. Graziano is supposedly not happy with the attention the TV show brings upon his secret society and stopped talking to his daughter. Graziano was chauffeured to the sitdown by mob wanna-be Matthew Rinaldo, who is also charged with participating in the card game robbery with Pagan. Pagan told Magistrate Andrew Carter that he’s broke and cannot pay for his own lawyer. http://fivefamiliesnyc.blogspot.com/ http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/feds...0#ixzz1eT8qIE18
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: Will Anthony Graziano make a move as Boss
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Anthony Graziano may not approve of his daughter's "Mob Wives" reality show, but it looks as though he has given its producers fodder for another season of Mafia melodrama. Graziano, 71, of Huguenot, a reputed one-time consigliere of the Bonanno crime family, has been tossed back in federal prison on extortion charges, just a few months after he was released from a halfway house and placed under house arrest. He was busted earlier today for attempting to collect a years-old loansharking debt, federal prosecutors allege. The Staten Island gangster, who has gone by the nicknames "TG" and "the Little Guy," is the father of Renee Graziano, one of the four stars of VH1's "Mob Wives," which returns in January. Anthony's arrest comes just a day after Renee's ex-husband, Hector Pagan Jr., and another Islander were charged with knocking over a mob-run card game in Travis in 2009. All three arrests were made as part of a probe by the federal Drug Enforcement Administration. Graziano was caught twice on a wire talking about the old debt with a confidential informant, according to a federal warrant for his arrest, and ultimately agreed to cut the debtor some slack in exchange for a smaller payout and a promise of fealty. The warrant lays out those conversations: "You remember this guy...? He owed me 150 thousand," Graziano said in an Aug. 16 conversation with the informant. The informant, a Bonanno soldier who "has an extensive criminal history that includes crimes of violence," was first directed to collect the debt in 2005, upon the informant's own release from prison, court papers allege. CAUGHT ON TAPE The informant told the aging mobster that the debtor was a panicky mess, worried about threats he had recently received. "I went to see the guy, the guy was crying hysterical on the boardwalk. I says, listen, you know Anthony would never do anything to you," the informant said. "Never," Graziano interjected. "And I'm not here to do anything to you either," the informant said. "Listen to me. Tell him ... 'Listen, Anthony says come to the house," Graziano said. In a later conversation, with an unnamed co-conspirator, the informant described the loanshark debtor as a "peace officer." "He's big with shackles, yeah?" the co-conspirator asked. Finally, on Nov. 9, Graziano told the informant to cut the debtor some slack: "Let me see what he says. If he got $25k, I'll take the $25k and call it even. You belong to me, anything you do, let me know, maybe I can make some money with you." Back in 2003, Graziano was sentenced to nine years in prison on tax evasion and racketeering charges that included a plot to kill two reputed Colombo crime family associates who'd shot a man in a former Charleston strip joint called Hipps, which was allegedly controlled by Graziano. The associates were not harmed. After "Mob Wives" premiered, Graziano and his daughter reportedly stopped talking because he didn't approve of her involvement with the show. Graziano's lawyer, Patrick Parrotta, said his client was released to a halfway house in early summer to serve the end of that sentence, then to home confinement about a month later. Graziano denies the most recent charges against him, Parrotta said. "My client is going to finish serving out the rest of his previous sentence in 2012, and in the interim, we are preparing to fight the allegations by way of a trial shortly thereafter," Parrotta said. CARD GAME HEIST The DEA investigation also led to the arrest of Renee's ex, Pagan Jr., 51, and Matthew Rinaldo, both Islanders. They were arraigned Monday on allegations they were part of a five-man crew that robbed a weekly card game run by the Bonanno crime family in the summer of 2009. Two members of that crew have since become cooperating witnesses, court papers allege. The game ran out of an illegal gambling club near the intersection of Victory Boulevard and Travis Avenue, according to law enforcement sources. They were hoping to find "substantial sums of money" at the game, court papers allege, but the job turned out to be high-risk, low-reward -- the take amounted only to about $5,000. Pagan pointed a gun at one of the victim's legs, and the robbers demanded the card players empty their pockets, according to the feds. A wall safe in the room turned out to be empty, though, as did an adjoining room, the feds allege. http://fivefamiliesnyc.blogspot.com/http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/11/mob_wives_dad_a_bonanno_big_is.html
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: Will Anthony Graziano make a move as Boss
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Anyone know what's up with the DEA being involved, or well actually the ones who made the indictment/arrest with this recent Graziano business?
Why the DEA? This doesn't seem to be a drug related case.
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