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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #616388
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I really like this show, but is there still much nudity? Like first season, i mean come on.. sometimes its good but like very 10 minutes goes a bit to far for me grin


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Originally Posted By: Mukremin
I really like this show, but is there still much nudity? Like first season, i mean come on.. sometimes its good but like very 10 minutes goes a bit to far for me grin


This is the new trend in series. They have to show nudity and porn. I'm a little annoyed by it too, also in films.

Interesting to note is that most of the great films have none or very little sex in it.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #616419
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Thats exactly what i mean, this is very annoying and atracts the wrong persons to watch the show. This is the reason i wont be watching Boardwalk any time soon.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #616529
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Don't you think that in a show that is often set in brothels or nightclubs, in which many of the main characters are motivated by power, money and sex there should be some nudity?


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As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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"some" yes, but come on.. The way it goes at Boardwalk its not some, its always.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #616598
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Lilo, MUk has a point. Scenes of "apparent" nudity can be shot without nudity whether in a brothel or on the boardwalk. Many (probably most) directors today just don't care about any of the moral implications of what they film because "the human body is a thing of beauty".


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: olivant] #616601
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Lilo, MUk has a point. Scenes of "apparent" nudity can be shot without nudity whether in a brothel or on the boardwalk. Many (probably most) directors today just don't care about any of the moral implications of what they film because "the human body is a thing of beauty".


To each their own. Every person has their own idea about what is gratuitous or not. I would not deny that some directors/actors/producers use nudity unnecessarily. But for me Boardwalk Empire doesn't fall into that category-not yet anyway.

I think that if you're going to tell a honest story about pimps (Capone and Torrio), drug dealers (Luciano), strippers,hookers and kept women (Jimmy's Mother, Lucy and most women that Nucky is interested in) there must be some nudity. How much? That's an artistic decision subject to market considerations like anything else.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #616604
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Okay. I know I've watched plenty of movies about the underworld (GFII for one) and its brothels et al that didn't include any nudity. It can be done. It's simply a choice by the director.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #616608
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It's fascinating that nudity can cause such discomfort when violence does not. Violence is much worse. Both Godfather movies had much more explicit violence than their forerunners. A lot of films coming out in that period did. Sonny's murder is a direct lift from Bonnie and Clyde, which was harshly criticized at the time by some for the explicit violence.

Those movies could have been shot w/o the explicit violence, as they would have been pre 1960 or so, but they weren't and I think they're better movies for it. It is all a directorial choice, as I wrote, and not every director can successfully use explicit violence and nudity but when it's needed I'm glad that those who are skilled enough to do so, have that choice.


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Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #616670
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Yes everyone has their own choice, and this was to be expected by the director of Boardwalk smile
Cant blame him... I had the same feeling about the Sopranos, Sopranos for me, would be awesome without the stripper scenes. You can show the BadaBing without having to show every stripper, just use is as a background. The main thing should not be nudity. I can live with violence tough grin


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So, Nucky's found his Luca, Jimmy's growing conflicted, and Peggy Rohen. What's up with that?

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The MAIN this isn't nudity -- and there's hardly any in this show -- and if you think it is (the main thing), then you're looking/listening to the wrong thing, and not the actual plot/story. That's a bit immature and/or righteous, IMHO. Anyone who has a problem with a little teet here and there has a bigger problem, and shouldn't be watching anything beyond PG/TV-14 then. It's no big deal -- it's scenery, nothing more (usually). Yet the same people have no problem with human disembowelment... odd to me... tongue wink



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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: olivant] #617016
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Originally Posted By: olivant
So, Nucky's found his Luca, Jimmy's growing conflicted, and Peggy Rohen. What's up with that?


Peggy is a nickname for Margaret, yes?
I think Margaret Schroeder was calling one of her siblings to see if they wanted to talk to her and got the message that she was dead to them. Schroeder is her married name. I presumed that Rohen was her maiden name.

I was interested as to why Richard did not immediately shoot the other fellow intervening in his business.

I liked the scene where Luciano and Lansky, clearly irritated by both Masseria and Rothstein, stay behind to talk after Rothstein left.

It will be interesting to see where the Jimmy relationship goes. In a past episode his mother told his wife she used to kiss his **** when he was a baby. They kiss on the lips to greet each other. There's some boundary issues there. I don't see how Jimmy can be angry at Nucky for his role as panderer and not be angry at the Commodore for his role as statutory rapist. It's a weird situation all around.


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Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Yes Lilo, Peggy is short for Margaret. I hadn't thought about "dead to me".

I too feel uncomfortable about Jimmy's relationship with his mother. Also, Nucky's words to Jimmy at the restaurant about how the Commodore just pointed definitely planted some doubt.

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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #617056
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Boring episode. And they really need to kill off that annoying Lucy character. She's adds only stupidness. That scene where she was with that weirdo was really bad.

The scene with Masseria was very good, although I think the real Masseria was quite squat.

Is it just me, or are the best episodes the ones that have New York and Chicago more involved?


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Originally Posted By: J Geoff
The MAIN this isn't nudity -- and there's hardly any in this show -- and if you think it is (the main thing), then you're looking/listening to the wrong thing, and not the actual plot/story. That's a bit immature and/or righteous, IMHO. Anyone who has a problem with a little teet here and there has a bigger problem, and shouldn't be watching anything beyond PG/TV-14 then. It's no big deal -- it's scenery, nothing more (usually). Yet the same people have no problem with human disembowelment... odd to me... tongue wink


I have no problem with nudity, especially if it involves attractive woman. It's the sex scenes that most of the time don't add anything to a serie or a film. If I want to see some porn, I use the internet. wink


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #617127
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Anyway, has "Uncle Junior" appeared yet? Cuz if he has, it's remarkable. He's supposed to be The Commodore's contemporary, and Jimmy's predecessor... saw a photo, and might've seen him, but he didn't stick out. Has he been in the series yet?



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Originally Posted By: J Geoff

Anyway, has "Uncle Junior" appeared yet? Cuz if he has, it's remarkable. Has he been in the series yet?


Yep. He had longish hair with muttonchop sides. Beside the hair, you'd recognize him right away. He's been in two of the three episodes this season (so far).


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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black

I have no problem with nudity, especially if it involves attractive woman. It's the sex scenes that most of the time don't add anything to a serie or a film. If I want to see some porn, I use the internet. wink


I beg to differ. The sex scenes convey feelings of characters and help the character build up. Self hatred, need for punishment, love, anger, ... I echo Lilo and JG here. tongue


Can't wait to watch this episode tonight. grin


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When the Prohibition agent (what's his name?) went to see Cuzik or Doyle, what was that all about?


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Great season so far. I can take or leave the nudity. It doesn't bother me one way or the other.

And hey, at least they're paying attention to the details of the time period. I haven't seen a Brazilian bikini wax yet tongue lol.


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PB, go to the previous page and see if you can answer my question.


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Originally Posted By: olivant
When the Prohibition agent (what's his name?) went to see Cuzik or Doyle, what was that all about?


Wasn't he looking for an informant?


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Another question from last week.

Is Chalky really illiterate OR was he just messing with the other prisoner by telling him the book was "Tom Sawyer" and not "David Copperfield".

And if he was illiterate of course his wife would have known so why would she have given him his son's gift in the first place?


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Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Interesting question. I think he was since he just pointed to the book's pictures when the guy i the jail cell asked him to read from the book. I don't remember the scene with his wife.


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Originally Posted By: olivant
When the Prohibition agent (what's his name?) went to see Cuzik or Doyle, what was that all about?


Didn't he start getting kickbacks to pay his whore? I think it has to do with that. It was interesting when he asked if Nucky was more fun than him.

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Lilo, interesting question. Now that I think, it makes sense that he couldn't read, otherwise, why give the book to the other guy to read?


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Originally Posted By: olivant
When the Prohibition agent (what's his name?) went to see Cuzik or Doyle, what was that all about?

Wasn't he looking for an informant?


The treasury agent (Van Alden) paid Doyle for a tip about the location of a speakeasy.

The more I watch the show, the more I love it. There are so many hidden little treasures.... like seeing Al Capone watch Jimmy playing with his son. Is this because Jimmy's son is healthy while Capone's son had health issues, or is it a foreboding of something unfavorable that Al might have to do to Jimmy in the future?

I love the characters of Chalky White and Richard Harrow. cool


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I love the characters of Chalky White and Richard Harrow. cool

Did you see Chalky dodge all those bullets. mad

Just about everyone gets hit except for him. lol! Then he picked off that one Klan guy in the truck.

And when he was locked up taking abuse from Dunn Purnsley. But Chalky showed him which way the wind was blowing that day. wink

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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Is it just me, or are the best episodes the ones that have New York and Chicago more involved?

Definitely not just you. Lets face it the guys who were operating in Chicago and NY back then are a helluva lot more interesting then the guys that were in A.C. At least they are to me.

Love the addition of Joe the Boss. And Rothstein settling the dispute between him and Lucky. Good stuff IMO.

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Great show last night!! It answered that Chalky really was illiterate (gotta feel for the guy; even his own family kind of makes fun of him for that, yet they're the ones who fail to remember from whence he came).

The Commodore got the shit beat out of him (by Gillian). We find out that he physically raped her and she was evidently down for some payback despite her earlier statement that she had forgiven him.

Nucky is taking a BIG gamble on allowing federal charges brought against him (so he can now reach for his connections in the White House to help him). A ballsy move, but it will probably pay off. He REALLY is a smart guy.

Two things that disturbed me.... 1) Richard (Jimmy's disfigured "partner") posing for Jimmy's wife. That kind of emotional opening can only lead to trouble. 2) Margaret holding back some cash (from her staff). That's going to lead to trouble, too.


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