Originally Posted By: J Geoff
Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
I often heard of Hell's Kitchen. I think there is even a tv show by that name.

As for the neighborhood, that's where Mario Puzo grew up...



Hell's Kitchen is also where "The Fortunate Pilgrim" takes place. Somewhat his semi-autobiography type of novel, and the one he considered his finest.

Speaking of Avenue J - it was not hostile from what I recall 15 years ago, but I do have a little "subway tale" from two stops ahead from there, at Newkirk Plaza, just after Avenue H: when the subway car stopped, we heard gunshots. Everyone panicked. Nobody got off the car, and a mother standing next to me told her kids to stand behind her. I remember everyone saying "jesus" and "oh my god". Then the car went on and everyone relaxed. Next time I got down there I kinda looked around more carefully grin


"Come out and take it, you dirty, yellow-bellied rat, or I'll give it to you through the door!"

- James Cagney in "Taxi!" (1932)