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MASSIVE HATRED
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07/22/11 05:31 PM
07/22/11 05:31 PM
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You know, people talk about the children or teenagers of today and how they lack any kind of manners and respect for others...their parents, teachers, classmates, you name it. It's worse now than it's ever been. But who is to blame? is anyone surprised that a 13 yrs old kid is being told every second (literally) on youtube to go kill herself and all kinds of other descriptions I better not write? should you be surprised or is that normal reaction online, simply because her song or video is very stupid? is there any reason to worry about this generation of youngsters, or do you think most of them are pretty normal?
Perhaps there's a difference between those who think it's just funny to call her Satan and stuff and those who truly think they HATE that girl....but either way they all visit her songs on youtube only for the sake of throwing another nasty comment. And then there's also those guys who send her death threats to her house, and that's when police gets invovled as well.
Rebecca Black, a 13 yrs old kid who had this dream of being a famous singer, is now the biggest boxing bag the world has ever seen. Her first song/video "Friday" was very silly, then it turned viral, and everyone just wanted to see this "worst song ever" and there you have it, over 200 millions viewers on youtube. But that didn't stop there. Millions simply kept on hitting the page day and night with endless nasty comments, because hey, it's a trend. Anyone can box and have fun. Biggest boxing bag in the world. Besides the comments, the more creative folks posted some funny remakes of the video, but of course many of those videos were also very offensive towards the girl. All that continued until one day the vid was taken off.
Few days ago, Rebecca launched her new YT channel alongside her new song "My Moment". Needless to say millions hit the dislike button automatically. It's quite better than "Friday" and there's really not much to hate about it, but people who told you to die last month are not likely to say anything else when they see your new vid. In fact, their boxing bag is back for round 2. What joy! they'll say "PLEASE JUST STOP", but between you and me, they LOVE to hate her.
This "hatred" is so ridiculous in the first place. What are the reasons to warrant such hatred? the reason is an innocent song, silly as it is, and a silly video to go along with it. So should this hatred be taken seriously? or do you think it's nothing to worry about? is this kind of cyber-bullying harmless? the girl said she cried at first, then she got over it, but is she the only one to worry about? what about those millions of attackers? they are the majority. I don't know for sure if they are all kids and teenagers, but I guess most are.
Just so you'll get the picture: in less than 3 days, the video was seen by 12 millions worldwide. Today I was there for one minute to see how it goes and get this: youtube told me after 1 minute that there are 60 new comments since I've enterd the page, a new comment each sec! so I went over the last pages quickly to check it out, and there was only 1 single comment which wasn't nasty in like 10 pages full of comments. They all seem pretty useless to me, but I guess that's how people vent...nevermind what they say about this 13 yr old girl...
Bin Laden was a sweetheart in comparison...
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- James Cagney in "Taxi!" (1932)
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Re: MASSIVE HATRED
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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07/22/11 06:01 PM
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Normal? No, they're not normal. The anonymity of the internet has given them license to shred someone to pieces. Even when they know one another, like on Facebook or via text message, they are not face to face. It allows greater license to say or do things you wouldn't if you were in a room together. You nailed it. People will type/write things they would NEVER say face to face.
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Re: MASSIVE HATRED
[Re: MaryCas]
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07/23/11 06:21 PM
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It is amazing how down right mean some people can be isn't it? As wonderful as the internet is (and by now who among us could do without it), it does create a wall between posters. You can be whoever you want to be and post whatever you want to post. Some people just don't care. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: MASSIVE HATRED
[Re: Mark]
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07/24/11 11:54 AM
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Mark That truly is a heartbreaking story. It is so sad that this bullying exists, and with the internet I fear will increase. I can only imagine what Carly's parents were going thru and the way you described her father and what he is going through losing a daughter and a wife makes my heart go out to him. All of us need to be aware of this, and for those who have young/teen children reach out to them and make sure this is not happening to them. I am sure you did all you could to assist your daughter and help her thru this agonizing experience. Being there is so important. And yes, Fame certainly does get us thinking and talking about very important issues like this. God bless him. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: MASSIVE HATRED
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07/24/11 03:43 PM
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Of course the schools do nothing. What else is new? Our school district has a "zero tolerance" policy when it comes to bullying. My daughter and her best friend were so bullied in middle school that her friend's parents were going to transfer her to private school. The little girl wouldn't go, because she told her mother that if she were gone, the bullies would destroy my daughter.
The bullying became so damaging that the other mom and I called the school and made an appointment to meet with the assistant principal who was in charge of discipline. We took the morning off from work, but when we got to the school, the assistant principal wasn't even there! He had gone to an off-site meeting of some sort. The woman behind the desk in the office told us we would have to come back another day. Obviously that "zero tolerance" thing was open to interpretation!
We refused to leave the school until someone met with us to discuss the situation. We finally got in to see the principal. He listened sympathetically and afterwards the bullying lightened up a bit.
And as an FYI, that bully was expelled a few years later for drugs in her locker. I guess that "zero tolerance" policy is enforced.
Bullying is not taken seriously enough. People feel that there have always been bullies, but they don't understand how it has changed. Kids have been bullied with pictures or videos from camera phones that are spread like wildfire. They are bullied like Mark's daughter, through social networking sites. Bullying has always been a horrible experience, but it's a million times worse now.
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Re: MASSIVE HATRED
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07/26/11 04:11 PM
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msnbc.com updated 2 hours 16 minutes ago 2011-07-26T17:49:48
Conservative commentator Glenn Beck compared the victims of the shooting spree at a Norway summer camp to Nazi's youth movement, drawing international ire.
"There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like the Hitler Youth, or whatever," Beck said on his radio show Monday, which is broadcast on more than 400 stations.
"I mean, who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing," Beck said about the Labour Party youth camp on the island of Utoya where 68 people, mostly teens, were killed.
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
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Re: MASSIVE HATRED
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08/19/11 05:56 PM
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Thanx Mark and everyone for your stories, and for your two cents.
And BTW, it's still going on as we speak. This thing with online flaming and Rebecca Black, it's more of a trend than real hatred. Even hatred is now without reason. The reason "she can't sing" is all you need to get it going. It's simply hatred for the sake of hating. These kids just go back there again and again just to say how much they hate her. I wonder what's so fun about it.
You can always say that people just need to grow some skin, and that complainig is being self-righteous, but these kids are too young to understand, perhaps. Will they ever learn that their behaviour is wrong? how will they learn it, when bullying is now practiced by almost everyone?
"Come out and take it, you dirty, yellow-bellied rat, or I'll give it to you through the door!"
- James Cagney in "Taxi!" (1932)
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