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Re: The most murderous Family in the last decade?
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06/26/11 03:04 PM
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theory is Murders spawn investigations or beef up ongoing ones. There is a general moratorium on murder in american lcn (not including canada) as the collatteral damage of executing a murder always outweighs the reason for the murder in this day in age. Its better to let the gambler renege on his vig and if he shows his face a threat or beating but nothing in LCN is worth the heat a murder can bring it can tear families apart look at the calabrese`s for example Frank sr. had enough money to live well its the murders that ruined him same with Vitale and Massino n Baciano the dissention in the ranks is a domino effect when facing life not worth it.
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Re: The most murderous Family in the last decade?
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06/26/11 11:24 PM
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I am surprised by these figures. Thanks Ivy - excellent stuff.
My biggest surprise is the number of Genoveses that got whacked. I thought they would have had the fewest.
Also stunned there is only 1 Lucchese. I guess they were either killed by Vic and Gas or locked up.
Funny that the Gambinos all got wounded....no one can shoot straight anymore?
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Re: The most murderous Family in the last decade?
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06/27/11 12:01 AM
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I am surprised by these figures. Thanks Ivy - excellent stuff. People talk how the mob doesn't kill people anymore. Not exactly true. Unless a guy is pretty well known, a lot of it is under the radar. My biggest surprise is the number of Genoveses that got whacked. I thought they would have had the fewest. They still seem to be very serious about enforcing discipline. Al Bruno wasn't bringing in a lot of cash and was thought to be an informant. Larry Ricci was talking too much about the Genovese moving into South Jersey and wouldn't take a plea deal in the ILA waterfront case. He ended up in the trunk of a car. Rudy Izzi may have been skimming money. Louis Antonelli wouldn't kick up to the mob.
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Re: The most murderous Family in the last decade?
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06/27/11 03:43 AM
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2000 montreal associate Capo(Unmade) Gaetano Panepinto killed because he killed 2 toronto ndrangeta without ppermission 2000 Montreal soldier Salvatore Gervasi murdered 2004 Montreal soldier Paolo Gervasi murdered 2006 montreal soldier Domenico Macri murdered 2006 Montreal Richard griffin West End Gang Irish mobster killed on orders from nick rizzuto sr. 2008 Montreal Associate Gus Alvizos killed in half way house near toronto after long being suspected of stealing rizzuto money. 2010 Montreal Associates kirk murray and Antonio Onesi murdered (murray feared mafia wanted him dead) 2011 Montreal Soldier Antonio Di Salvo murdered 2001 Montreal names unknown 2 italian men were killed at a mafia construction building in a shootout in 2001 but no names found so im not sure on this http://www.osgoode.yorku.ca/NathansonBackUp/CurrentEvents/2001_Q3.htm
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Re: The most murderous Family in the last decade?
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In Philly, you'd have to add Rocco Maniscalco in 2010 for not kicking up as well. Based on a recent article, this appears to be the leading cause. I am surprised by these figures. Thanks Ivy - excellent stuff. People talk how the mob doesn't kill people anymore. Not exactly true. Unless a guy is pretty well known, a lot of it is under the radar. My biggest surprise is the number of Genoveses that got whacked. I thought they would have had the fewest. They still seem to be very serious about enforcing discipline. Al Bruno wasn't bringing in a lot of cash and was thought to be an informant. Larry Ricci was talking too much about the Genovese moving into South Jersey and wouldn't take a plea deal in the ILA waterfront case. He ended up in the trunk of a car. Rudy Izzi may have been skimming money. Louis Antonelli wouldn't kick up to the mob.
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Re: The most murderous Family in the last decade?
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06/30/11 01:01 PM
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2004 Montreal Capo Vincent Melia is murdered at a sports bar in Montreal at the same time Frank Cortroni`s funeral is taking place.m Definately a symbolic hit from the calabrian faction as melia was a rizzuto loyalist.
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Re: The most murderous Family in the last decade?
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Thanks for the feedback guys! I wonder if anyone can answer me this: If we take the Gambino's as an example roughly how many people do you think they have ordered to be killed in the last decade? Also, if we were to compare that to the 70s how does it compare? Could they be killing 30-40 people in a year back then?! The 80's into the first few years of the 90's seemed to be a particualry deadly era in mafia circles. There seemed to be a never ending supply of capible killers (Sammy the Bull, Greg Scarpa, DeMeo crew, Tommy Pitera, Charles Carneglia, Tony Mirra, Casso, Scarfo was having people killed left and right, Colomboes were killing each other wholesale, etc) then. It also helped the police and FBI didn't have the powers and suffocating presence they have today, it is hard to even get away with running a red light or speeding these days.
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Re: The most murderous Family in the last decade?
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07/16/11 06:25 PM
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2005 montreal associate Magdi Garas Samaan killed by capo fracesco del balso(according to police) but never charged 2009 montreal associate Sam Fasulo murdered
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