Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Mussolini14
While I usually agree with Ivy's post I have to disagree with the assumption that because there are not as many arrests as being proof of less criminal activity.


How do we measure mob activity in a certain area? Articles, news stories, government reports, hell, even anecdotal accounts by people on the internet have their place. But for my money, the strongest indicator is indictments. Why? Indictments are a result of law enforcement attention, which in turn is a result of the level of activity of a family. It's pretty simple...

Little activity = Little LE attention = Few Indictments

More activity = More LE attention = More Indictments

And the indictments over the past decade have proven this. The most is in New York, followed by smaller families in New England, New Jersey, Philadelphia, and Chicago. Then very little elsewhere.

Has Detroit somehow managed to avoid law enforcement scrutiny simply because they're smarter than everyone else? I'd say there's less law enforcement scrutiny because the mob in Detroit isn't as big or operates on the level some believe it still does.

But hey, maybe I'm way off and the Milwaukee family has perfected evasion of law enforcement since there's been no significant activity there since the 1980's.


All it takes is for the guy who calls the shots to say " you know what, I feel street gangs, and drug dealing is the biggest threat to the public so I am going to allocate the majority of our resources to fight that element" and immediately you have a recipe for less indictments involving the mob. Combine that with Tocco education and political connections and that could very well explain the lack of mob indictments for the Detroit LCN family. Of course the other explanation could be they are in fact dormant or extinct. The point is lack of indictments does not in any way mean lack of crime. By that same logic Tony Accardo and Carlo Gambino must have been less involved and lower in rank that Rusty Rastelli because Accardo and Gambino never spent a day in jail, whereas Rastelli was indicted numerous times and spent half his adult life in the can. As a matter of fact, Gambino must have been a law abiding citizen who was unfairly stereotyped for his Italian heritage because if he really was a godfather surely he would have been indicted more and done some time.


I'm no expert on crime but I don't think Milwaukee compares to Detroit in terms of gangs and violence.

Furthermore there were mob related indictment as recently as 2006 and Detroit still has a relativity tight nit Italian community and a little Italy, unlike Milwaukee.

Last edited by Mussolini14; 07/03/11 07:22 PM.