I didn't say they were Vinny,but it seems like these are ledgeable and anybody with a half a brain can figure out what they are referring to.We'll see how this thing ends up there Vin,but I sort of think that most of them will get what their guidelines call for.I am not a prosacutor,lawyer,nothing but an observer and I leave myself open to be 100 percent wrong.It's just my opinion.Do you have one on what you think the outcome will be,if so I would like to hear it.Yeah I rememember when the jury had a hard time understanding some tapes on Gotti but I guess it helped that Sammy the Bull bribed the jury.