Originally Posted By: capocapo1
Ivy now I am starting to believe you have no clue what you are talking about. Either that or your one of those people who believes everything they read. If you read something that said jump off a bridge and you will become rich, would you believe it? Same concept applies here. No I have never done a census of made members in the CHicago Outfit. However as I have said before I have been around the Chicago Outfit since I was a kid. When you refer to the Chicago Outfit and their made members, you are referring to anyone that answers to No Nose. That being said, you have to consider thats all the made members in Chicago and also all the made members that have been sent to other places working under Chicago Outfit control. Now that being said that includes but it not limited to Los Angles fraction, Milwaukee faction, Las Vegas faction, Nebraska fraction, Iowa Fraction and San Diego fraction. All the members of these fractions are not made however there is at least a 10% made member ratio for these fractions. Lets just say for easy math reason that in all these fractions there are at least 10 made members. That is 60 made members right there. Now that is more than the 50 you claim they have. You have to stop believing everything you read. I have been at high ranking Outfit member houses when they have had member only meetings. The Chicago Outfit has more than 200 members and is in the vicinity of 250. You are an idiot if you believe anything else. Just out of curiousity how many made members of any organized crime family do you know? I can list at least 70 without even having to think. In total I have meet well over 125 currenct Chicago Outfit made members.


I've encountered so many people on these forums who claim to have inside knowledge. They know this person or that person. They grew up here or there. It's the easiest way to try and gain instant credibility. But your own posts prove you don't know what you're talking about. Nebraska faction? Iowa faction? Give me a break. If you really believe the Outfit has people, let alone entire factions, in Nebraska or Iowa in this day and age, you are truly lost. The bulk of the modern day Outfit's operations are in and around Chicago within Cook County. And to a lesser extent elsewhere in Illinois, like Rockford and other places. There is no Outfit faction in Milwaukee. And there is likely not any more than a handful of guys left in places like Nevada, Arizona, and California.

You can keep repeating the Outfit has 250 members all you want. Doesn't make it true. And you rattling off 70 names proves nothing. There are plenty of blogs and lists on different forums of that many names associated with the Outfit and more. But there's not proof, beyond what we know, which ones are made guys. And you simply saying this guy or that guy is made proves nothing. Sorry, but I'll go with the average from various official estimates over the past 10-15 years rather than some bogus figure a faceless poster on an internet forum makes up.


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