Originally Posted By: capocapo1
I have sat here and read all your posts. Now I will put in my 2 cents for what it is worth. This coming from someone with great knowledge of organized crime. The Chicago Outfit is much larger than the FBI estimates. There made members is somewhere in the vicinity of 250. Ivy League you talk about how people are basing this on 30 years ago. I can tell you that I am not. And the current head of the Chicago Outfit would tell any of the 5 New York Families to go to he**. There is no way he would answer to them. I am not saying the Chicago Outfit is stronger or larger than the Genovese Family. But I can promise you that neither one would want to go to war with the other. Your knowledge of the New York Families seems to be pretty good, however your knowledge of organized crime outside of the 5 families is way off. Do you think the FBI really knows how many members are in each family. Come on. For your knowledge the Chicago Outfit is said to be the stongest amoung all organized crime families according to Robert Mueller Director of the FBI


This post is so absurd it's almost not even worth responding to. But what the hell?

First, you Chi-town boys really are the worst when it comes to mob fanboyism.

Second, anyone who thinks the Chicago mob has anywhere near 250 made members obviously has nowhere near a "great knowledge" of organized crime. I go with official estimates over the past decade. You won't find any credible estimate that puts the Outfit at more than 60 made members max. That's not including associates of course. The average estimate being about 50 made guys, which is about half the size of one of the smaller New York families. Furthermore, law enforcement estimates of mob family membership have been pretty consistent since they started keeping better tabs in the 1980's. Much more reliable than the 250 number you pulled out of your ass.

Third, nobody said anything about the New York families giving orders to the Outfit. In fact, I've said before that that New York and Chicago have relatively little contact nowadays.

Fourth, Robert Mueller or anyone else in the FBI has never said the Chicago Outfit is the strongest OC family. However, the feds and numerous mob experts have long said the Genovese family are. And I can provide you with a list of those comments as long as your arm if you like. Something we both know you can't do regarding your lie about what Mueller supposedly said.


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