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Re: Julian Assange & Wikileaks [Re: afsaneh77] #588776
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Originally Posted By: afsaneh77
Has Obama actually commented on this?

He'd be crazy if he did, afs. In my opinion, he's having his best two weeks as President. He's finally selling himself as a centrist, so to comment on this (either way) would not be in his best interest. That's politics.

Besides, that's what he has that idiot Biden for.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: afsaneh77
Has Obama actually commented on this?

He'd be crazy if he did, afs. In my opinion, he's having his best two weeks as President. He's finally selling himself as a centrist, so to comment on this (either way) would not be in his best interest. That's politics.

Besides, that's what he has that idiot Biden for.


Well, Biden says things that even makes Obama cringe. I can never forget the way Obama looked at him when he cracked a joke about chief justice for messing the oath of presidency. lol


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Re: Julian Assange & Wikileaks [Re: pizzaboy] #588819
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
He'd be crazy if he did, afs. In my opinion, he's having his best two weeks as President. He's finally selling himself as a centrist, so to comment on this (either way) would not be in his best interest. That's politics.


Not just that, but let's use a classic example from 1970:



The aftermath, according to http://law.jrank.org :

Nixon's remarks were meant to criticize what he perceived as a tendency of the media to glorify criminals, and the White House quickly issued a statement denying any intent to prejudice the case. Nevertheless, Manson's defense, arguing that such a statement by the president made a fair trial impossible, motioned for a mistrial and demanded that the charges against him be dropped. Judge Older denied the motion.

The next day in court, Manson stood and displayed a newspaper with the headline, "Manson Guilty, Nixon Declares." Judge Older questioned the jurors about their reaction to the headline. Satisfied that they would remain impartial, he ordered the trial to resume and sentenced Atkins' attorney, Daye Shinn, to three nights in jail for leaving the newspaper within Manson's reach.


http://law.jrank.org/pages/3202/Charles-...l#ixzz18jE9j3wJ


Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

Besides, that's what he has that idiot Biden for.


Not everybody gets to be called a high-tech terrorist (i.e. doesn't shit in a cave) by the Vice-President on National TV.

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Re: Julian Assange & Wikileaks [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #588867
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
He'd be crazy if he did, afs. In my opinion, he's having his best two weeks as President. He's finally selling himself as a centrist, so to comment on this (either way) would not be in his best interest. That's politics.


Not just that, but let's use a classic example from 1970:



The aftermath, according to http://law.jrank.org :

Nixon's remarks were meant to criticize what he perceived as a tendency of the media to glorify criminals, and the White House quickly issued a statement denying any intent to prejudice the case. Nevertheless, Manson's defense, arguing that such a statement by the president made a fair trial impossible, motioned for a mistrial and demanded that the charges against him be dropped. Judge Older denied the motion.

The next day in court, Manson stood and displayed a newspaper with the headline, "Manson Guilty, Nixon Declares." Judge Older questioned the jurors about their reaction to the headline. Satisfied that they would remain impartial, he ordered the trial to resume and sentenced Atkins' attorney, Daye Shinn, to three nights in jail for leaving the newspaper within Manson's reach.


http://law.jrank.org/pages/3202/Charles-...l#ixzz18jE9j3wJ


Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

Besides, that's wha lol t he has that idiot Biden for.


Not everybody gets to be called a high-tech terrorist (i.e. doesn't shit in a cave) by the Vice-President on National TV.


OMG, I remember seeing that Nixon/Manson on the news. eek Quite the story. No matter how Nixon meant it though, he SHOULD have known better I would think.

As far as Biden, I actually don't mind the guy, but yea, he probably needs a muzzle from time to time. After all, words that come out of his mouth could end up being a "big F***ing deal." lol

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Re: Julian Assange & Wikileaks [Re: thenewyorkdon] #588933
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Wikileaks To target Bank Of America In Next Release

Assange also confirmed that WikiLeaks was holding a vast amount of material about Bank of America which it intends to release early next year.

"We don't want the bank to suffer unless it's called for," Assange told The Times. "But if its management is operating in a responsive way there will be resignations," he said, without giving details about the material.

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/afp/20101221/twl-us-diplomacy-wikileaks-assange-swede-7e07afd.html

Re: Julian Assange & Wikileaks [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #588958
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FYI,

I am surprised to learn that Julian Assange will be interviewed today on the Dylan Ratigan show at 1:00 p.m. PDT (4:00 p.m. EST) on MSNBC eek Should be very interesting for those following this story.


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Re: Julian Assange & Wikileaks [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #588978
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Oh. Hell. Yes.

Wikileaks To target Bank Of America In Next Release

Assange also confirmed that WikiLeaks was holding a vast amount of material about Bank of America which it intends to release early next year.

"We don't want the bank to suffer unless it's called for," Assange told The Times. "But if its management is operating in a responsive way there will be resignations," he said, without giving details about the material.

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/afp/20101221/twl-us-diplomacy-wikileaks-assange-swede-7e07afd.html

LOT of investors nervous about this right now.....bank stocks are a great buy right now but they'll be much better when this all comes to light.

Re: Julian Assange & Wikileaks [Re: Frank_Nitti] #588990
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UN to investigate treatment of jailed leaks suspect Bradley Manning

The United Nations is investigating a complaint on behalf of Bradley Manning that he is being mistreated while held since May in US Marine Corps custody pending trial. The army private is charged with the unauthorised use and disclosure of classified information, material related to the WikiLeaks, and faces a court martial sometime in 2011.

The office of Manfred Nowak, special rapporteur on torture based in Geneva, received the complaint from a Manning supporter; his office confirmed that it was being looked into. Manning's supporters say that he is in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day; this could be construed as a form of torture. This month visitors reported that his mental and physical health was deteriorating.

The Pentagon denies the former intelligence analyst is mistreated, saying he is treated the same as other prisoners at Quantico, Virginia, is able to exercise, and has access to newspapers and visitors.

He was charged in July with leaking classified material including video posted by WikiLeaks of a 2007 US attack in Baghdad by a Apache helicopter that killed a Reuters news photographer and his driver. He is also suspected of leaking other material to the website, which is posting more than 250,000 secret state department cables. Manning has not commented on whether he is the source.

In an interview with MSNBC, Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, described Manning as a political prisoner and called on human rights organisations to investigate.

Nowak, an Austrian rights lawyer, has been involved in cases related to the Balkans, Guantánamo Bay, Iraq and China.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/23/un-treatment-leaks-bradley-manning

Re: Julian Assange & Wikileaks [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #589015
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The damned UN easily one of the most worthless organizations on the planet. Poor bradley manning what do his supporters want him to have? a big screen tv, blue ray player, fridge full of beer or what ever else he wants to drink. While the government is at it they might as well as throw in a call girl once in a while. rolleyes

This idiot if found guilty betrayed his country and his fellow soldiers and people in this country actually support him that is a very scary thought.


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Assange signed £1.1 million in book deals

LONDON (AFP) – WikiLeaks chief Julian Assange said in an interview published Sunday he had signed deals for his autobiography worth more than one million pounds (1.2 million euros, 1.5 million dollars).

Assange told Britain's Sunday Times newspaper that the money would help him defend himself against allegations of sexual assault made by two women in Sweden.

"I don't want to write this book, but I have to," he said. "I have already spent 200,000 pounds for legal costs and I need to defend myself and to keep WikiLeaks afloat."

The Australian said he would receive 800,000 dollars (600,000 euros) from Alfred A. Knopf, his American publisher, and a British deal with Canongate is worth 325,000 pounds (380,000 euros, 500,000 dollars).

Money from other markets and serialisation is expected to raise the total to 1.1 million pounds, he said.

The latest project of Assange's whistleblower website is the gradual release of tens of thousands of US diplomatic cables.

Since this latest project began Assange, who is on bail in Britain fighting a bid by Sweden to extradite him over the sex assault claims, has faced problems financing WikiLeaks.

Credit card companies Visa and MasterCard and the Internet payment firm PayPal have blocked donations to WikiLeaks, prompting Assange to label them "instruments of US foreign policy."

The Bank of America, the largest US bank, has also halted all transactions to WikiLeaks.

Washington has been infuriated by WikiLeaks as the site slowly releases the cache of around 250,000 secret US State Department cables. The US is believed to be considering how to indict Assange over the the huge leak.

Assange has been staying at a friend's country mansion in eastern England since his release from jail on December 16 on strict bail conditions that include reporting to police daily and wearing an electronic tag.

A court in London is due to hold a full hearing on the Swedish extradition request starting February 7.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101226/en_afp/usdiplomacywikileaksbook

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