I just said: you use the Bible as an a front for your excuse as to why you disagree with homosexuality... When the truth is, you're just not mature enough to except something you're not.

Haven't you learned yet that the Bible is a contradiction in most ways?

Hrmph.

It's not that I disagree because its something I am not. I agree with many things I am not.

Homosexuality seems to be different in your eyes.

I wonder who the other "real" hackers are

I watched a TV programme on genetics (OK I'm nerdy like that ) they were pretty sure they had discovered a 'homosexual gene'.
In the future they surmised, they could 'remove' this gene,same as they could hopefully remove other genes to eradicate birth defects, illness etc hence, no homosexuality.
The homosexuals were very aggrieved by this, said it offended their rights to be what they 'were'.
I have no problem with homosexuals, straights or bi-sexuals. I base my opinions of people on the way they treat me or my family, nothing else.
But, really, we dont design ourselves. so, a homosexual gene must be God given if your a religeous person??

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Exactly. You, my friend, have hit the nail on the head. God gave us free will, God created us... So, if the Bible says that it's a sin, but also gives us free will... Isn't that a CONTRADICTION? And even so, if it's genetic, GOD DID IT. So why'd he shun those who he made that way? I am Catholic, and I believe in God, but I'm really not religious... Because, I have now seen how contradictionary the Bible truely is.

I doubt it, sorry, but I do. I too have heard of this, but they haven't said yet that it is true. Plus, I believe [and this is non-religion related here] that if your gay or straight, its YOUR choice. Unless you have a deficit in your mind that causes it.

NO, NO. That's where you're wrong. If you're homosexual(please use this term rather than "gay") you can't go heterosexual. It's impossible to just be homosexual... And say "hey, I think I'm gonna go straight." IMPOSSIBLE. This is why I think it can be a gene, but it's somewhat of a choice; because you can keep it to yourself and just not go with guys or girls... Or choose to use your free will that GOD gives you... But then shuns you if you use it. (CONTRADICTIONS!!!)

I still do not think it is a gene, but after giving it thought, I think that how the parents raise a child has a MASSIVE affect. It all depends on how they raise you even thought that dosen't mean that you are gonna be what they want.

just my 2 cents

Maybe so. But, that's contradicting yourself, or rather, I should say the Bible is. How can it be a sin if you're not the one who has CONTROL of it? My, my, my...

No, because I said that it doesn't always work because you almost always grow up with knowledge outside of it. If your parents said all your life that homosexual is the right one, eventually you will find out that it is wrong because men go with women to have a family. The only really good thing I find in homosexual men or women is that they often adopt the kids that would have had no families.

Idiot.

What do you mean it's wrong? There's NOTHING WRONG with homosexuality! Why can't you see that? They are people just like you and me! Just because they prefer the same sex, is no reason to say they're wrong. It's their free will, and they can't fucking help it. No matter how much KNOWLEDGE they attain, they can't CHANGE THEMSELVES. You cannot turn a homosexual into a heterosexual, it's impossible. And why do it. if they miraculously could, if they enjoy it? It's not right, or wrong. It's what they prefer. Let them be.

When I say "wrong" I mean that men do not get men pregnant likewise with women and women. Men get women pregnant. And I am not shunning them and saying they are not people. I just find it wrong for the reason stated above. Men get women pregnant.

That's not what you were saying before. Before you were saying homosexuality is WRONG and SICK because the Bible says so. Are you gonna live your whole life by the Bible? That's rather sad.

Not sad for me. I live my life that way. Sure I cannot live without sin but hey, nobody is perfect. Sad? Not in the slightest bit. Especially since I will be in paradise after I go 6 feet under.

So, anyone who commits a sin in their life will go to hell? Not really. You don't have to live your life by the Bible to go to heaven. I just commit different sins... Than you. God forgives everyone, right?

When did I say that? Mortal sins get you to hell. Vinial do not. period.

Doesn't the Bible say God forgives all? Oh, no... But, then he'll send you to hell for doing what he TELLS YOU TO DO -- FREE WILL! Another contradiction.

Nope, it means He forgives you when you are TRUELY sorry for the sin.

How can you be sorry for something you're doing with your free will, which he tells you to use? CONTRADICTION.

Wrong again. Free Will means He will not stop you by force. But there are conciquences. I think of life as a test. Hell, life IS a test.

Wrong again? Hah... Funny, 'cause I haven't been wrong yet.

The Bible is a contradiction. Although I believe in God... I do not agree with many things he says. It's bullshit to be FORCED to believe in what he says, when you don't, or else you'll be damned to hell. That's bullshit.

Haven't been wrong yet? I have translated the meaning of the "contradictions" you have thrown at me.

Yeah, in one or two sentences in which I turned back around at you with more sensate meanings. You just went by the Bible, in which you force yourself to believe, while I go by my own own ways -- FREE WILL.

But, I'm not gonna sit at my computer all day and argue with you. We have opinions, and they differ, so why argue over it? Let's stop, so we don't clutter Geoff's board. Meaning NO REPLIES.

And Geoff, if you read this, we weren't "flaming" or fighting. We were debating. And who doesn't enjoy a good debate?

Tootles.

How, intelligent. Allowing a being that no one has ever seen, or has any physical proof for; to dictate: actions, words, thoughts, lifestyles, sexual preferences, and finance.

Unless, I am really wrong and learnt nothing when; I was a Chirstian: I always believed; Christianity was about acceptance. Not judging, after all the bible itself warns about skimming judgement on others.

I. Myself am not a homosexual nor a bisexual. I; however have many friends who are. I look at them no different because of a difference in a specific preference. Why; would I do that? I might be an asshole, piece of shit in the eyes of most, but one thing; I am not is close-minded nor narrow-sighted.

Vercetti. What do you deem wrong about homosexuality? War, greed, hunger, and poverty will eventually cause a decline in the amount of human beings in existence; so I'll spare you that argument. A bad thing? Not specifically. Ignorance stacked that high is; fucking depressing. Humans are supposed to fucking progress as time forges on difficutly; justly or unjustly yet; uncontrollably.

If god destroyed a town, village, or city simply because of what he adjudged wrong. He must have been a great guy; huh? Does that make you want to kiss his ass? He must be some great being. Pretty cool too. Assuming he exists of course.

Guineapig.

Fuck all this talk of homosexuals. I want to know who here had sex with an animal, and is it available for parties.

Beth, do human animals count?

They're the best kind. Just feed them and fuck! In no particular order.

I never said He destroyed a town. SCake said that and I never heard of it. SCake, where does it say this?

My God flooded the Middle East for 40 days. He killed lots of people and animals. Yet, I still fully believe in him, and worship him.