Sure, in many cases it is an act of love, but in most cases it is an act of vulgar love. Lust is not love, but just booty call. Sure, I really don't care if they are in love but you know, hormones are bastards. Pain? No, of course your going to enjoy it when you do it, what? Are there people who hate it?(well maybe) but IMHO, sex is for reproduction, taking pleasure while that is not bad imo, but just doing it for the pleasure and no care about reproduction, then its meaningless.

Tony, pleasure as lovg as it doesn't hurt anybody? Are you not the one who said that masturbation is for weak minded people? Well its the same thing, an act of pleasure. I will go no further because I do not know for sure if you did say that...