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the mobsters who ruined their families
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Nicky Scarfo before him, the family of Philadelphia was the most stable, wafter Angelo Bruno, the Gentle Don was killed in 1980, began a bloody war that lasted for years, now the philly mob is the most dysfunctional family of la cosa nostra, and is about to become the new mickey mouse mafia. John Gotti came to power after killing his boss, he loved celebrities and fine clothes, he couldn't keep his mouth shut. after he was wiretrapped, the feds convinced sammy gravano to flip because Gotti would give him the blame for everything. Anthony Casso his paranoia and his bloody determination, to whack the jersey faction , convinced Peter Chiodo, Alphonse "Little Al" D'Arco and others to flip .
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Re: the mobsters who ruined their families
[Re: Mukremin]
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12/05/10 08:45 PM
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Re: the mobsters who ruined their families
[Re: IvyLeague]
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12/06/10 08:01 AM
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Well, they blew up the chicken man in philly last night Now, they blew up his house, too Down on the boardwalk they're gettin ready for a fight Gonna see what them racket boys can do Bruce Springsteen Atlantic City Little Nicky Scarfo Nicodemo led to ruin, the family of Philadelphia,gave permission to Gambinos and Genoveses , which according to some, acted in the shadows to kill Angelo Bruno, to operate in Atlantic City ,which was previously the exclusive domain of philly mob.Start a war against Harry Riccobene which caused dozens of deaths and injuries. because his family remained in the same size about 60 soldiers over thirty years, half still in jail, making it the most dysfunctional family of the Mafia, close to become the mickey mouse LCN family of East Coast. In front of sparks, body of Castellano Block away watched by Gotti and Gravano It's la Cosa Nostra, someone close approach you Cam'ron Welcome To New York City John Gotti aka The Dapper Don , aka the Teflon Don ruined the gambino, but not as Nicky Scarfo.When sammy gravano, killed his boss Paul Castellano and his underboss Tommy Billotti in December 1985, Gambino was the most strong family in New York with 350 men on the streets, after Gotti was convicted in 1992 it remained 150.When became the new boss forced every made man and assocciate to pay tribute. Allowing the FBI to know the members of didn't knew the existence, unlike Gambino and Castellano, made a lot of money through drugs, with his brother Gene,gotti was jealous of he,because Gene become a man of honor before him. Gene was sentenced to 50 years for drug smuggling heroin to be precise, inducted and promoted captains his son Junior who was acting boss from 1992 to 1999, and who was a complet idiot. Gotti couldn't keep his mouth shut, so the feds convinced Gravano to testify because the boss would fall all the blame on him . He was beaten in jail by a black and had promised $ 100,000 to the Aryan Brotherhood to kill him but failed and died in prison of throat cancer in 2002, no high-rankin mobster went to his funeral. 'Whack New Jersey' Anthony ''gaspipe'' Casso Anthony Casso with victor amuso heavily damaged the Lucchese family, becamed boss in 1987 amuso appointed Casso as underboss.paranoid by nature, he killed anyone suspected of being a rat, new jersey faction led by michael Taccetta gave an annual tribute of $ 50.000 to the family, Casso wanted more, but Taccetta refused. So casso with this words 'whack New Jersey' ordered to kill all 40 members of the faction. Began a war that led to the death or woundered men of both two factions.Many men like Peter Chiodo, Alphonse "Little Al" D'Arco and others, agreed to testify against casso and amuso.Both are serving a life sentence. It soon rumored around the country that the Commission had played both sides during the Colombo War, not responding to the questions asked by both Persico and Orena, of who would continue as the Boss of the Colombo crime family, in an attempt to completely destroy the much wounded crime family by letting them fight each other. Victor Orena a powerful brooklyn capregime and in 1988 acting boss of the colombos, in 1991 after an the attempt on his life, On June 20, 1991, a five-man hit team led by acting consigliere Carmine Sessa and John Pate and Hank Smurra (all men controlled by Greg Scarpa) converged on Orena's home on Long Island planning to assassinate him. The plan failed because Orena arrived home prematurely before the killers were ready. After the attempt on his life, he reached out to the other families, asking the Mafia Commission's to legitimize his position, while Sessa appealed to the Commission on behalf of Persico, portraying Orena as an upstart who was betraying his longtime boss, Orena already had a strong reputation as an honorable man with the other crime families. The group acted without approval of Carmine Persico, but Carmine Sessa and John Pate (said they did it to protect their lives from Orena. They claimed they could not tell Theodore Persico, brother of Carmine for fear he would go to Orena. The general opinion was that the attempted hit made made without approval from Carmine Persico because of Orena's strong stance against narcotics,while Gregory Scarpa, John Pate and Carmine Sessa were involved in the sales of narcotics.Gregory "Greg the Grim Reaper" Scarpa, Carmine Sessa and John Pate all became cooperators as informants for the F.B.I. On November 18, 1991, Orena supporters began a war against the Persico faction, opening fire on Persico's top capo, Gregory "Greg the Grim Reaper" Scarpa, Sr., it began the third colombo war.in 1993 after twenty and more murdered, 40 members of the persico faction was arrested,same thing happened to many members of orena faction,It was during the "Colombo trials", that Greg Scarpa would be recognized as an informer and testify against dozens of members of the Colombo crime family, including Vic Orena himself. In 4 federal cases there were acquittals including Victor Orena's sons, William "Wild Bill"Cutolo and Alphonse" Allie Boy" Persico when revelations by several F.B.I. agents exposed a 30-year relationship with the F.B.I. and interference to keep the murderous Scarpa on the street. Addresses of murder targets were provided by agents and Scarpa was notified of informers in his vicinity. Carmine Sessa testified that he saw agents visiting Scarpa in the hospital and was present when his wife said his "Friend" a name for his F.B.I. handler, called and said that" he would not have to fear jail" for a crime he committed.This fact did not stop Sessa from joining forces and remaining a follower of Scarpa. In late 1992, Orena's most powerful caporegime, Pasquale "Patty" Amato, was arrested along with the remaining Orena faction. Later, the imprisoned Carmine Persico and the remaining Persico faction claimed the victory of the Colombo War. It soon rumored around the country that the Commission had played both sides during the Colombo War, not responding to the questions asked by both Persico and Orena, of who would continue as the Boss of the Colombo crime family, in an attempt to completely destroy the much wounded crime family by letting them fight each other. Victor Orena was tried on several counts of racketeering, murder and conspiracy to commit murder in New York City, receiving life imprisonment
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Re: the mobsters who ruined their families
[Re: Mukremin]
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12/06/10 10:29 AM
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Not trying to defend Casso,'cause he is a Machiavellian,sociopathic scumbag,but from a Cosa Nostra point of view,I always felt he was at least partly justified in his actions regarding the Jersey Crew.
Casso was the boss(well,underboss,but it was a power behind the throne situation),the rules were always that whatever the boss says,that's the way it is.The Jersey Crew were making millions,maybe tens of millions,and what they were kicking up(50 thousand a year) was,to put it simply,an insult.They should have expected it.
Also,him trying to "whack Jersey" was always a bit overstated.I may be wrong,but I always believed that he mainly tried to kill the Accetturos and a couple of other people,not the entire Jersey crew,which had 40 made guys and probably hundreds of associates
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Re: the mobsters who ruined their families
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12/06/10 10:49 AM
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Justified? Come on, if Carlo Gambino, Tony Accardo, Lucky Luciano, hell even Angelo Bruno, those guys i would call justified. Not the likes of Casso, or Amuso, not even Gotti. Even though they were bosses, killing a whole crew cuz of that, no way.
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Re: the mobsters who ruined their families
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12/07/10 02:32 AM
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Not trying to defend Casso,'cause he is a Machiavellian,sociopathic scumbag,but from a Cosa Nostra point of view,I always felt he was at least partly justified in his actions regarding the Jersey Crew.
Casso was the boss(well,underboss,but it was a power behind the throne situation),the rules were always that whatever the boss says,that's the way it is.The Jersey Crew were making millions,maybe tens of millions,and what they were kicking up(50 thousand a year) was,to put it simply,an insult.They should have expected it.
Also,him trying to "whack Jersey" was always a bit overstated.I may be wrong,but I always believed that he mainly tried to kill the Accetturos and a couple of other people,not the entire Jersey crew,which had 40 made guys and probably hundreds of associates The same could be said about Scarfo. Once he became the boss, he technically had the right to demand tribute and obedience from guys like Riccobene and others who balked at following the new leadership. Especially since Scarfo was backed as boss by New York. Of course one could argue that, practically speaking, guys like Scarfo and Casso went about it too heavy-handed. They were too quick to kill and didn't really care how many bodies piled up. That doesn't exactly help with loyalty in the ranks.
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Re: the mobsters who ruined their families
[Re: Mukremin]
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12/07/10 06:55 AM
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Starz Planning to Remake 'Underbelly' http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/06/22/starz-planning-to-remake-underbelly/would be really funny if, starz decided to do a remake of underbelly, focusing on the Scarfo-Riccobene war . Little Nicky''Scarfo a violent mobster, who rose to prominence after his boss, was killed by his own men, with the consent of New York Families. Harry Riccobene, a old school mobster, for him the loyalty and honor are everything in life. neither of them wanted to die, neither wanted to give up power. It would be war. A war that would upset Philadelphia, and brought to ruin the Philly mob''
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Re: the mobsters who ruined their families
[Re: IvyLeague]
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12/07/10 03:41 PM
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The same could be said about Scarfo. Once he became the boss, he technically had the right to demand tribute and obedience from guys like Riccobene and others who balked at following the new leadership. Especially since Scarfo was backed as boss by New York.
I agree but to a lesser extent.From my understanding Riccobene was always more of an independent guy,he didn't really work together with the rest of the family even under Bruno.Where as the Jersey Crew I imagine were trading on the Lucchese family name. Of course one could argue that, practically speaking, guys like Scarfo and Casso went about it too heavy-handed. They were too quick to kill and didn't really care how many bodies piled up. That doesn't exactly help with loyalty in the ranks. Agreed. But it's a double-edged sword.Casso demands more money,Accetturo tells him to go fuck himself,Casso sits still and takes it.How does that look?Makes Casso look weak,the Bronx faction starts getting ideas... From my understanding,even though Casso was greatly respected for his earning potential,he wasn't really liked except by guys in his own inner circle because he made alot of enemies getting to the top.What was his saving grace was that basically 95 percent of the wiseguys across the five families were petrified of him.Especially after he got the two cops and the FBI guy on his payrol,no one knew the extent of his power,he was like a real life Keyser Soze. The book "The Brotherhoods" which deals extensively with Casso and Al D'Arco in that documentary pretty much imply that when Gravano had bad dreams,they were of Casso :D,and Gravano was very high-up. So I guess he had to keep the ball rolling...
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Re: the mobsters who ruined their families
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12/08/10 04:41 PM
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Vic Orena? That one is questionable to me, he wanted to take on the mantle from The Snake who was jailed for life at that time. He was extremely liked and a great earner by the family, and he had ordered Sessa to poll all the Captains together and vote on making him official Boss,thats when Sessa decided he didnt like that and carried out a Hit with some other guys and war started.
Maybe Carmine Persico should be on that list? What do you all think...
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: the mobsters who ruined their families
[Re: Mukremin]
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12/09/10 09:06 PM
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well its kind of hard to do your time when the govt threatens the death penalty against you but still he should have taken his medicine
'Massino was later charged with ordering the murders of Napolitano and Mirra. Massino was scheduled to go on trial for the second time for a separate murder trial, which he was also expected to lose. If convicted, he faced the death penalty. On February 4, 2005, the FBI revealed that Massino was the source for the graveyard. Hoping to save his life and his assets, Massino had begun to cooperate sometime in late September 2004 by recording conversations with his acting boss, Vincent Basciano."
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
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Re: the mobsters who ruined their families
[Re: Mukremin]
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12/09/10 10:57 PM
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But thats doesnt mean he can go and screw everyone else and destroy the thing that he worrked for years. His hands werent tied, cuz he still had the choice to do his time. I never said he shouldn't have just done his time. My point is the FBI can very vindictive and petty when they want to. They don't just go after the accused, they make it hell for the accused family too. That is not too mention all of the other dirty tactics they've participated in while investigating and prosecuting mafia figures. The entire witness protection program has become a joke, guys can live as a criminal for decades doing loads of devious things and get out of jail just for testifying against another criminal.
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