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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Lilo] #583471
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I find Graham more looking like Al Capone than Robert De Niro in The Untouchables.


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I felt sorry for Pearl. Poor girl looked awful when she walked into the bar and asked if anyone wanted to buy her a drink. frown

I agree with you Sonny, from the few pics I've seen of Capone, Graham does looks pretty much like him. As despicable as a character he is in the show, he's proving to be a great "bad guy." Know what I mean?


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #583475
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Yeah I know what you mean, he plays an interesting character. Looking forward to next monday, when I have the oppertunity to see the next episode. wink


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I'm playing catch up and am on the 3rd episode. Which character is Pearl?

I, too, am pretty sure that Nucky is Jimmy's dad.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Beth E] #583499
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Pearl is the hooker with the heart of gold that Jimmy takes up with in Chicago. Small lady with full lips and round face.


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Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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The FBI prohibition agent is growing stranger. In episode 3, he barely wants to go home, and when he is, all he can tell his wife is the roast is good. What is it about his character that makes him that rigid? In episode 2 once he's finished writing a letter he wraps some kind of rope around his hand. What was that? At first I thought it was a rosary.


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I think one of the themes of the show will be that many of the people in favor of Prohibition and charged with enforcing it had personal issues of their own. It seems like many of the women in the Temperance League are older and somewhat uptight. And Agent Van Alden is wound so tight that likely normal natural expressions of love and affection are beyond him.

I don't know how true this was historically but it does often seem like many (not all) of the most inflamed prohibitionists of any "vice" are often dealing with their own internal issues.

I think that rope was a ribbon from Margaret's hair. He swiped it when she wasn't looking. In some aspects I think the Agent is a slightly less disturbed version of Harold Lauder from Stephen King's The Stand.


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Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Lilo] #583543
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Oh, I didn't notice him swiping Margaret's ribbon. That makes sense now. Will we have a duel between him and Nucky for Margaret's affection?

I am liking this show. Finally, a tv show this season I can actually get into and want to watch each week.


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Originally Posted By: Beth E
The FBI prohibition agent is growing stranger. In episode 3, he barely wants to go home, and when he is, all he can tell his wife is the roast is good. What is it about his character that makes him that rigid? In episode 2 once he's finished writing a letter he wraps some kind of rope around his hand. What was that? At first I thought it was a rosary.


I think it's a ribbon he took from Mrs. Schroeder. That may be the connection. He may be lining her up to spy on Nucky.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: olivant] #583546
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You guys are so good with remembering the characters names so quickly. I wasn't sure what agent Beth was speaking of until Oli's last post clicked. blush

The guy is a little suspicious. Since he seems all business, I would guess it's more likely the scenario Oli mentioned, lining Margaret up to spy on Nucky rather than affection for her, but who knows.

I like the show and it's backdrop and the era is interesting. Yet, it's nowhere near as good as to the Sopranos IMHO.

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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #583549
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Yeah, the agent doesn't like cursing or using the Lord's name in vain, but he had not problem roughing up the shooting victim to get the name of his attacker out of him. I'm thinking down the road some time he may find himself wanting to turn gangster.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Beth E] #583551
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Hey Beth, this was mentioned earlier in this thread, but what did you think about that store that showed "premie babies?" Wasn't that strange? I wonder if they really did that in those days. And did they mean it as some kind of a freak show type thing?????? ohwell



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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #583554
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Didn't the store sell incubators? I guess they wanted real life proof of how they worked. To me, when the nurse put the baby in that closet it looked more like a coffin. That was creepy.


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Beth E] #583557
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Was that what they were selling? I thought the sign said something like, "small babies". Maybe you're right, I didn't catch that it was an incubator store. It would make sense I guess, but still seemed eerie to me for some reason. ohwell



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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Beth E] #583558
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Originally Posted By: Beth E
Yeah, the agent doesn't like cursing or using the Lord's name in vain, but he had not problem roughing up the shooting victim to get the name of his attacker out of him. I'm thinking down the road some time he may find himself wanting to turn gangster.


That's the great hypocrisy about those 'believers', some of them are real snakes.


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I just watched the latest episode. It was sad to see Pearl go. Maybe it was better that way than to be ridculed like she would have.

Call me twisted but when Van Alden punched that guy in the face I cracked up.

Who knew having Margaret turn a guy in would turn Nucky on. Nucky got some nookie.

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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Beth E] #583694
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Originally Posted By: Beth E
I just watched the latest episode. It was sad to see Pearl go. Maybe it was better that way than to be ridculed like she would have.

Call me twisted but when Van Alden punched that guy in the face I cracked up.

Who knew having Margaret turn a guy in would turn Nucky on. Nucky got some nookie.


Ha ha ha Beth, doesn't every woman at one time or another have the desicre to punch a guy in the face? lol

I spoiled the Pearl storyline for you didn't I? ohwell Sorry!!


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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #583714
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I'm not one who worries about spoilers. When I enter a thread about a show that's been on for weeks I expect to hear things that happen that I haven't seen. It doesn't bother me or ruin it for me.

I kind of like Van Alden. I liked the actor since he was in the movie "World Trade Center" playing the marine who finds the main characters.


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For me this show is still on the fence.

Good enough to hold my interest somewhat so far, but not good enough...yet.. where I MUST tune in every Sunday at 9:00 to watch like I used to for Sopranos.

I think that it has a lot of potential and that the writers have given just enough to keep you interested. For me, this 6th episode is the make or break episode. It seems to be building and building each week but its about time for some real exciting action.

Not a Sopranos by any means, but still has a lot of potential.



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Re: Boardwalk Empire [Re: Don Cardi] #583916
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this has to be one of my favorite shows, and i can't wait to see what happens to every character in the end of season 1. o yea is it true about rothstein helping to pay the white sox to throw the world series or was that just added in?

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Originally Posted By: BAM_233
this has to be one of my favorite shows, and i can't wait to see what happens to every character in the end of season 1. o yea is it true about rothstein helping to pay the white sox to throw the world series or was that just added in?


Hey Bam. good question. Several years ago we had a discussion about Rothstein and the blacksox scandal. Here is what our esteemed friend, Turnbull, wrote about his alledged involvement:

Originally Posted By: Turnbull
Rothstein didn't fix the 1919 World Series. The perception came about because he was widely regarded as America's premier gambling operator, therefore only he could have had the wherewithal to have "fixed" something as big as a World Series. The perception was fanned by Henry Ford, America's leading anti-Semite of the era, who used it to launch another tirade against Jews. The falsehood also was perpetuated by F. Scott Fitzgerald, who introduced a Rothstein-like character called Meyer Wolfsheim, "the man who fixed the 1919 World Series," in his famous novel, "The Great Gatsby."
Here is an account from Jenna Weissman Joselit's book on Jewish crime in NY, "Our Gang":
"Rothstein's expertise and fame as a gambler were so great that the mere mention of his name was enough to convince eight disgruntled members of the Chicago White Sox tp throw the 1919 World Series in return for a bonus of $100,000. Rothstein had been approached initially by agents of the ballplayers and asked to participate in the swindle, yet he refused; why we do not know. Undeterred, the professional gamblers masterminding the 'Black Sox' scandal pretended they were working on Rothstein's behalf and therefore succeeded in convincing the ballplayers to proceed with the scheme. Despite Rothstein's repeated and heated denials, the press charged him with 'fixing the World Series...' " Somewhat the same account appears in Albert Fried's "The Rise and Fall of the Jewish Gangster in America."
(Thanks for your vote of confidence! grin )



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I'm with Bam - I very much enjoy this show. BTW - It's great to see Don Cardi back in the saddle and checking in! Pesronally, I am hoping for an HBO spin off about Capone as a result of Boardwalk Empire. The Chicago Outfit has always been my main interest in the world of organized crime. I agree with DC, it's not on the level on Sopranos but it sure has potential to be the next big thing for us like minded fans!

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Originally Posted By: Mark
I'm with Bam - I very much enjoy this show. BTW - It's great to see Don Cardi back in the saddle and checking in! Pesronally, I am hoping for an HBO spin off about Capone as a result of Boardwalk Empire. The Chicago Outfit has always been my main interest in the world of organized crime. I agree with DC, it's not on the level on Sopranos but it sure has potential to be the next big thing for us like minded fans!


thanks for the info don cardi, and mark i too hope for something on its own, but it will be interesting of how long this show lasts and how fast the time period will fly by. if the show lasts three seasons then i can see a spin off using his great years up too his death. but, if the show lasts 6 seasons + then the chances are slim.

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Thanks for the nice words Mark. I appreciate it.

And Bam, you're very welcomed.

Don't know if you guys are old enought to remember a show that was on NBC back in 1980-81 called The Gangster Chronicles. It was an excellent show centered around Luciano, Bugsy and Lansky's (who on the show was called Lasker)rise in the underworld and had all of the others in it like Capone, Genovese, Lucchese, etc.

A well written, excellent casted show which in my opinion was way ahead of it's time. It was on for only one season and was never renewed for more. frown

An Al Capone mini series, if done the right way, could work. I always felt that someone like Scorcese should have done a movie about Crazy Joe Gallo. A very very interesting and 3 dimensional gangster who's life story would make for excellent entertainment on the big screen.





From Lft to Rght : Michael Nouri as Luciano. Joe Penny as Bugsy. Johnathan Banks as Dutch Shcultz and Louis Giambolvo as Capone.




Brian Benben as Michael Lasker ( Meyer Lansky )




Richard Castellano (GF Clemenza) did an outstanding job playing Joe The Boss Masseria.





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I do remember that show on NBC. I was bit by The Godfather bug in 1977 when they televised parts 1 & 2 together on one of the major networks. Since then, anything mob has piqued my interest. BTW, I posted this tidbit in the "Goodfellas" thread but it didn't get much response...Has anyone heard of a possible "Goodfellas" weekly series in development?

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The Gangster Chronicles was superb. But, the Country wasn't ready for it I guess. Plus it probably had competition on other networks. That was BC. These days, it would probably be produced by HBO or FX and would be a hit. In fact, maybe FX could be enticed to rerun it.

By the way, on Boardwalk, wasn't it Jimmy's wife who stopped at a storefront along her walk and walked in? What was that place and why did she go in?


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I remember that show too. As a matter of fact one of my BB friends sent me a DVD of it. wink

Hey Cardi, nice to see you. Hope you're well. smile



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I thought Jimmy's wife walked into the photographer's studio because he is her lover.


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Originally Posted By: Beth E
I thought Jimmy's wife walked into the photographer's studio because he is her lover.


Oh. I had forgotten about that.


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I thought Jimmy's wife walked into the photographer's studio because he is her lover.


Oh. I had forgotten about that.


i would figure jimmy was going to kill that guy

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