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Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: goombah] #583831
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Some NFL defensive players are furious about the league's decision to start suspending players for dangerous hits. Miami Dolphins linebacker Channing Crowder said on Wednesday that he will keep using his helmet despite the new rules.

"If I get a chance to knock somebody out, I'm going to knock them out and take what they give me," Crowder said. "They give me a helmet, I'm going to use it."

Crowder also suggested that all players wear pink every game if the league continues to make football look more like a "feminine sport."

"They can complain, they can suspend, they can fine and they can do whatever they want, but you can't stop a man from playing football the way he's been playing since high school," said Crowder.

Chicago Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher bashed the new rules on Wednesday, saying that the league should put flags on players and change the name to the "National Flag Football League."

Defensive Players React


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: Lilo] #584041
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I joined the movement called "Pay James Harrison's Bogus fine," where fans are sending Commissioner Goodell a letter with a dollar in it to pay the fine. What's disturbing is that the league is fining Harrison while using images of the hit, for which he was fined, to promote the hard hitting action of the NFL.

I think the league is overreacting to the hits. There are helmet to helmet hits on every play. The gratuitous hits should be subject to fine, but when you have receivers crossing the middle at great speed, catching passes at shoulder/head level, a defender has to hit high and hard. Imposing strict liability draconian fines and suspensions will have a chilling effect on the way the game is played.

I agree with the defensive players' reaction.

Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: klydon1] #584055
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Originally Posted By: klydon1
I joined the movement called "Pay James Harrison's Bogus fine," where fans are sending Commissioner Goodell a letter with a dollar in it to pay the fine.


That's pretty silly, but pretty cool for whoever is opening the mail. Free Money, whee.




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Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: Longneck] #584073
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Kly, Longneck here is another explanation of how the game works from a former tight end for Denver, Nate Jackson. I don't recognize the name, evidently he was/is a journeyman confused but the acknowledgment of the risk and danger and why certain actions are required was enlightening for me at least.

Pay your money, take your chances


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: Lilo] #584122
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The Bears were who we thought they were. ohwell

Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: Lilo] #584282
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Originally Posted By: Lilo
Kly, Longneck here is another explanation of how the game works from a former tight end for Denver, Nate Jackson. I don't recognize the name, evidently he was/is a journeyman confused but the acknowledgment of the risk and danger and why certain actions are required was enlightening for me at least.

Pay your money, take your chances


Lilo, that article hit the nail on the head.

Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: Don Sicilia] #584283
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Originally Posted By: Don Sicilia
The Bears were who we thought they were. ohwell


Cutler is Cutler, and unfortunately the Bears are saddled with him.

Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: klydon1] #584309
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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Originally Posted By: Don Sicilia
The Bears were who we thought they were. ohwell


Cutler is Cutler, and unfortunately the Bears are saddled with him.


Athletic, can make all the throws, very poor judgement (and the porous line doesn't help)... Rex Grossman 2.0.

Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: Don Sicilia] #584312
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Are Bears fans upset that Thomas Jones was not retained? His success has continued into this year since leaving Chicago, even splitting time with Jamaal Charles. I know Forte is versatile, but he gives them inconsistent running and Mike Martz's offense hates to handoff. IMO, Cutler needs a huge upgrade in its receiving corp since they have all kinds of salary tied up in Cutler.

Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: goombah] #584353
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I don't think better receivers are needed. I don't think Cutler has ever shown he can read defenses and think quickly enough to be consistently successful in the NFL. I never was a Cutler fan.

Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: klydon1] #584354
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Although he was successful, I don't think Thomas Jones was seen as a difference maker here in Chicago. That could have been the product of the offensive line, which has been poor for years, since we've seen what TJ can do with a decent line. I think having Forte softens the blow and people here consider him a pretty decent back. Like you said though, Martz likes to throw, throw, throw so he hasn't gotten a chance to show much of anything beyond what he did in the first couple of games this year.

Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: Don Sicilia] #584373
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Originally Posted By: Don Sicilia
Although he was successful, I don't think Thomas Jones was seen as a difference maker here in Chicago. That could have been the product of the offensive line, which has been poor for years, since we've seen what TJ can do with a decent line. I think having Forte softens the blow and people here consider him a pretty decent back. Like you said though, Martz likes to throw, throw, throw so he hasn't gotten a chance to show much of anything beyond what he did in the first couple of games this year.


what pissed me off about the trading of TJ was we didn't receive nothing in return! and, then you add in benson who was suppose to be a great running back turn into garbage (either it was him, the o-line, or the o-coordinator).

anyways though it has been years, and chances are we will draft another running back in a couple years (hopefully after the o-line is fix, the secondly is fix, and replenish the defense)

Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: BAM_233] #584694
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And that was that....

The second Randy Moss era in Minnesota didn't even last a month.

The NFL Network reported that the Vikings waived Moss on Monday, one day after he criticized head coach Brad Childress in a bizarre news conference following a 28-18 loss in New England. Vikings LB Ben Leber told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that Childress told the team it had cut Moss.

Randy Moss was traded from the Patriots to the Vikings in early October.
The Vikings, who acquired Moss from the Patriots for a third-round pick on Oct. 6, are the second team to move on from Moss this season.

Moss, who is set to become a free agent after the season, would have to clear waivers before he becomes a free agent.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: Lilo] #584708
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NEW YORK -- A regular-season NFL game drew more television viewers than the World Series.

The "Sunday Night Football" matchup between the past two Super Bowl champions was watched by 18.1 million people, compared with 15.5 million for Game 4 of the World Series.

NBC said it was the first time an NFL game earned a higher rating than the World Series, though the two have rarely aired at the same time over the years.


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"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
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Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: olivant] #585276
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Wade Phillips let go.

Cowboys coach fired


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: Lilo] #585291
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Originally Posted By: Lilo
Wade Phillips let go.

Cowboys coach fired

If his father wasn't an icon in the state of Texas, he would have been fired at least a year ago.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: pizzaboy] #585296
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Browns won Giants won all is well.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: pizzaboy] #585298
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Lilo
Wade Phillips let go.

Cowboys coach fired

If his father wasn't an icon in the state of Texas, he would have been fired at least a year ago.


Why would that be? His record last year was 11-5. The year before it was 9-7. His first year it was 13-3.


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"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
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Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: olivant] #585334
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Lilo
Wade Phillips let go.

Cowboys coach fired

If his father wasn't an icon in the state of Texas, he would have been fired at least a year ago.


Why would that be? His record last year was 11-5. The year before it was 9-7. His first year it was 13-3.

He went to the playoffs five straight years and one exactly one playoff game. That's unacceptable with the talent they've had (and the money that buffoon Jerry Jones has spent).

Besides, you're a Steelers fan, what do you care? tongue grin


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Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: pizzaboy] #585338
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Cowboys have certainly struggled this year!


I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees!
Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #585339
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Its all Jessica Simpson's fault!

Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: pizzaboy] #585360
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: olivant
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
[quote=Lilo]Wade Phillips let go.

Cowboys coach fired

If his father wasn't an icon in the state of Texas, he would have been fired at least a year ago.


Why would that be? His record last year was 11-5. The year before it was 9-7. His first year it was 13-3.

He went to the playoffs five straight years and one exactly one playoff game. That's unacceptable with the talent they've had (and the money that buffoon Jerry Jones has spent).

Besides, you're a Steelers fan, what do you care? tongue grin [/quote]

Wade was named Cowboy's coach in 2007, so he's only been coaching the team for 3.5 seasons. During that period the Cowboys only made the playoffs twice.

Since I live just about 35 miles from the Death Star, it's all relevant.

Last edited by olivant; 11/09/10 03:18 PM.

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Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: olivant] #585361
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Meh tongue lol



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Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: pizzaboy] #585367
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Let the Steelers meet the Giants in the SB and then we'll see who cares.


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This has been a topic of local angst....but it's not like they were winning with him. ohwell

Preliminary tests indicated that Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford might have suffered a Grade 3 separation of his right shoulder during Sunday's game against the New York Jets, according to reports.

A source "close to the situation" says the Lions feared, following those preliminary tests, that Stafford would not play again this season, MLive.com reported.

In addition, FoxSportsDetroit.com reported that sources are convinced Stafford's season is over. The source also said Stafford's second injury "is worse" than the injury to his right shoulder that he suffered against the Bears in the season opener.

A Grade 3 separation means that three ligaments in the Acromioclavicular Joint (AC Joint) have been damaged.
QB Out???


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: pizzaboy] #585390
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Meh tongue lol



And:


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: Mignon] #585410
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Originally Posted By: Mignon
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Meh tongue lol



And:


those teams suck!


Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: BAM_233] #585436
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DA BEARS! Way to go, Bam!

Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: Mark] #585496
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Originally Posted By: Mark
DA BEARS! Way to go, Bam!


Don't you mean "Duh Bears"?


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"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
"Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
Re: 2010 NFL Discussion [Re: olivant] #585498
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Kinda like "The Dallas Ow-boys"? wink

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