MICHAEL: Well, when Johnny was first starting out, he was a bricklayer; installing beautiful patios with a big construction contractor. And as his career got better and better, he wanted to get out of it and start his own company.

Now, Johnny is my father's godson. And my father went to see this contractor, and he offered him $10,000 to let Johnny go. But the contractor said no. So the next day, my father went to see him; only this time with Bob Villa. And within an hour, he signed a release, for a certified check for $1,000.

KAY: How'd he do that?



MICHAEL: My father made him an offer he couldn't refuse.


KAY: What was that?


MICHAEL: Bob Villa held a nail gun to his head, and my father assured him that either his brains -- or his signature -- would be on the contract. That's a true story. That's my family's construction business, Kay. It's not me.