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The Butcher :Anatomy of a Mafia Psychopath
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10/15/09 10:30 AM
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The Butcher, by Phillip Carlo is the story of Bonanno Family member Tommy "Karate" Pitera. Pitera got his nickname because of his interest in Japanese martial arts, cuisine, lifestyle and history. He went to Japan as a teenager and lived there for two years training in martial arts.
Upon return to Brooklyn, the diminutive mobster hooked up with the Bonannos, was formally inducted and became a feared killer.
This should have been a better book. It feels like it was rushed. The author makes a number of presentation mistakes. There are neither footnotes nor index. There is sloppy use of terms. Pitera is described as a capo but since he doesn't seem to have any other made men in his crew, perhaps he was really just a soldier. There's certainly no description of any promotion. Anthony Spero, Bonnano bigshot, is alternatively described as the Family counselor or underboss-sometimes in the same paragraph. I know that roles were in flux but which one was it? If both, what was changing and how did that impact Pitera?
But the worst flaw in my opinion is the author's use of omniscient third person narrative. At this time Tommy Pitera has not granted Carlo long interviews detailing his thoughts, hopes and fears at various times during his life. Nor (to my knowledge) have his parents, wife, girlfriends, fellow karate students or other intimates spoken on record with Carlo.
So there's really no way for Phillip Carlo to know exactly what Pitera was thinking or why he did what he did. To speak definitively as if you know what's going on in someone else's head is irritating. William Roemer did that in his books but at least he could always fallback on the "informant who I can't reveal" trope. Carlo doesn't have that.
Perhaps realizing that his ability to draw a picture of Pitera is somewhat limited, Carlo spends a great deal of time depicting the DEA agents who would help take Pitera down. However these guys are not really that compelling either.
There's also conflicting/self-serving information that Carlo gets from the DEA. For example it supposedly was a DEA sting alone that took out Vito Genovese with no mention of the oddity of a sitting mob boss meeting with a low level drug courier or Frank Lucas was supplied from the Gambinos and Bonannos with no mention of the Golden Triangle connection.
Carlo's primary source for much of his information is Frank Gangi, a member of Pitera's crew and a man who by his own admission is a alcoholic and junkie who was involved in at least three murders committed with Pitera. This person only sees the light after he gets busted for drunk driving and falls apart. Of course it is just as likely that Gangi and Pitera realized at the same time that Gangi was a weak link and Gangi ran to the police. In any event Gangi is just not a sympathethic figure. At all.
One good thing that this book does however is strip away the fiction that there is any real difference between the Mafia and other so-called street thugs or gangsters. Pitera kills because he's ordered to do so but he also kills because he's annoyed or bored or simply wants what someone else has. His ONLY business seems to be drugs. He's surrounded by lowlifes, junkies and party girls. Other than killing a made man, Pitera doesn't seem to ask or need permission for any of his murders.
Speaking of Pitera, another character tells his wife "He has no friends because he killed them all!". That pretty much sums up Tommy Pitera.
I would give this book 3 out of 5 stars. I would wait to purchase it in paperback version or used.
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Mafia Books
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I just finished "Miami Babylon," by Gerald Posner. Not a mob book, per se, although it includes a detailed account of Chris Paciello's rise and fall as both a Staten Island thug and the self ordained club king of Miami Beach. It covers the "gentrification" of Miami and Miami Beach in the years following the Mariel boatlift, which includes crooked cops, shady politicians and cocaine cowboys, all treated like celebrities in Sin City. It tells the story of how South Beach went from being a dilapidated senior community in the early 80s, to the east coast version of Las Vegas that it is today. A very interesting read, especially if you're familiar with the area.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Turnbull]
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11/21/09 03:19 PM
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Next to Vegas, South Beach is the most lunatic place in America. Quite a change from when the old ladies were living in the deco hotels, huh, TB?
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Yogi Barrabbas]
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12/14/09 12:01 PM
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Just read MAKING JACK FALCONE by FBI undercover agent Joaquin Garcia,who bought down various Gambino wiseguys like Greg DePalma and his crew. A good read,informative and interesting! Good, quick read, Yogi. There was a secondary story in that book about police corruption in Hollywood, Florida. My neighbor in Florida was married to one of those cops at one time. She told me he was a real creep. I think he ended up getting like 14 years, if I'm not mistaken.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia Books
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12/14/09 12:12 PM
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Was he Kevin Companion PB? I have literally just put the book down and the what happened to the crooks index was at the end (so still fresh in the memory) That's not her last name, but they were married some time ago, so it's possible. I'll find out and pm you.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: pizzaboy]
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12/14/09 12:18 PM
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Thanks PB. About Falcone,i chuckled when he wrote that with all the wiseguy feasts he attended,and him being a big eater anyways, he ballooned up to 450 pounds  Wow!!
I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees!
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