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Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #556339
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hope the yanks lose, and the red sox...sucks that the cubs are not in it, but hey at least i don't have to go through the pain of them being swept in 3 games.

Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: SC] #556358
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Originally Posted By: SC
I just can't get pumped up for the post-season this year....


Why not? Jaded? Too many world championships for the Red Sox lately?


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Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: Blibbleblabble] #556359
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lol

I have to admit that is part of it.... the Sox are becoming an entity I don't like in sport - big business.

Add to that, all the crap about steroids, money, money, money ("Oh wait, you're gonna give me 50ยข more - I'm gonna sign with you").

I've become jaded. frown


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Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: SC] #556360
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As much as I hate the separation of big spending teams and low budget teams... I wouldn't mind to see the Giants buy a championship in my life time. blush

I think I'll regret saying that.


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Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: Blibbleblabble] #556361
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Originally Posted By: Blibbleblabble
I think I'll regret saying that.


Doubtful. You've had your years of heartache with them.... the first one they win will be sweet.

One of the problems I have with the Yankees is that they've been doing it for years and years.


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Now that the season is drawing to an end, I think the following awards are appropriate:

AL MVP- Joe Mauer. He simply had the greatest offensive year ever by a catcher, the most demanding position on the field. He led the Twins without Morneau to the brink of the playoffs.

AL Cy Young- Greinke. While his team was among the worst in baseball, he was the best pitcher in his league from start to finish. Others have won more games, but none outpitched him in the AL.

AL Manager of the Year- Scioscia. The Adenhart death, injuries to the staff and lineup, and the team doesn't miss a beat in winning another division.

NL MVP- Pujols. He had it won at the All-Star Break. He's the best player in baseball, and a big reason that the Cardinals ran away with the division.

NL Cy Young- Carpenter by a hair over Lincecum. And Wainright only a step behind them. I think Lincecum is a better pitcher, but this was Carpenter's year.

NL Manager of the Year- Jim Tracy. months ago in another thread I said he was the most underrated mgr. in baseball (Piniella was the most overrated). What the Rockies were before he took over in May, and what they were after shows his value.

Finally, I would vote for the Phillies' Ruben Amaro, Jr. as exec of the year. Not only did he bring in Cliff Lee and Ben francisco for very little and sign Pedro Martinez, but it was the trade he turned down (Roy Halladay) that allowed him to keep top mlb pitching prospect, Kyle Drabeck, and JA Happ, who will likely be rookie of the year.

Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: SC] #556412
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Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: Blibbleblabble
I think I'll regret saying that.


Doubtful. You've had your years of heartache with them.... the first one they win will be sweet.

One of the problems I have with the Yankees is that they've been doing it for years and years.


if you want to look at heartache looks at the cub fans! at least the giants won one in the past 50+ years.

Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: BAM_233] #556413
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Originally Posted By: BAM_233
if you want to look at heartache looks at the cub fans! at least the giants won one in the past 50+ years.


Hey, I was a Sox fan for 40 years before they won in '04. (I would have loved to have seen the Sox and Cubs in '03 in the Series).


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Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: klydon1] #556430
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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Now that the season is drawing to an end, I think the following awards are appropriate:

AL MVP- Joe Mauer. He simply had the greatest offensive year ever by a catcher, the most demanding position on the field. He led the Twins without Morneau to the brink of the playoffs.

AL Cy Young- Greinke. While his team was among the worst in baseball, he was the best pitcher in his league from start to finish. Others have won more games, but none outpitched him in the AL.

AL Manager of the Year- Scioscia. The Adenhart death, injuries to the staff and lineup, and the team doesn't miss a beat in winning another division.

NL MVP- Pujols. He had it won at the All-Star Break. He's the best player in baseball, and a big reason that the Cardinals ran away with the division.

NL Cy Young- Carpenter by a hair over Lincecum. And Wainright only a step behind them. I think Lincecum is a better pitcher, but this was Carpenter's year.

NL Manager of the Year- Jim Tracy. months ago in another thread I said he was the most underrated mgr. in baseball (Piniella was the most overrated). What the Rockies were before he took over in May, and what they were after shows his value.

Finally, I would vote for the Phillies' Ruben Amaro, Jr. as exec of the year. Not only did he bring in Cliff Lee and Ben francisco for very little and sign Pedro Martinez, but it was the trade he turned down (Roy Halladay) that allowed him to keep top mlb pitching prospect, Kyle Drabeck, and JA Happ, who will likely be rookie of the year.


I agree with all of your picks. As much as I would love to see Lincecum win the Cy Young every year, I would actually put Carpenter and probably Wainright ahead of him because they are on a good team. Lincecums win total would be impressive if he had the Cardinals offense to back him up... Cain as well, who quietly put together a great season.

I heard discussion about Greinke vs. Sabathia. I agree Greinke deserves it, but Sabathia pitches for the Yankees and has more wins and might get more biased votes, so I think it will be a close race there even though it shouldn't be.


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Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: BAM_233] #556431
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Originally Posted By: BAM_233
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I think I'll regret saying that.


Doubtful. You've had your years of heartache with them.... the first one they win will be sweet.

One of the problems I have with the Yankees is that they've been doing it for years and years.


if you want to look at heartache looks at the cub fans! at least the giants won one in the past 50+ years.


The fact is, both our teams are without championships in our life times. So, 50 years or 100, our lives are full of losing cry


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Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: BAM_233] #556441
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Originally Posted By: BAM_233
if you want to look at heartache looks at the cub fans! at least the giants won one in the past 50+ years.


Well, you can add the Olympics to that heartache now.

(I was hoping they'd get the games).


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Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: SC] #556446
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i figured they won't on the reasons of chicago's crime is not getting better. and, lets not forget that the united states is not well liked at the moment.

Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: BAM_233] #556448
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If they were worried about crime, then Rio wouldn't have been picked.


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Nah... political reasons. South America never had the games; it was time.


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Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: SC] #556542
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yes it's all politics.

Brazil has a huge 'sports mafia' going on and it provides a once in a lifetime chance for COI to cash in with the help of a friendly government.

They keep spending billions and billions and billions investing in top performance sports, with lame results, while doing nothing about the development of sports as a whole, not to mention that the country has got thousands of much more important needs than hosting a 2 week party and wasting billions of dollars in building stadiums and arenas that will become useless.

just read about the 2007 Rio Pan American Games. the spendings still haven't been (and pretty much will never be) approved by the Union's Fund. most of the giant enterprises built for the games are rotting to rust, not to mention a millionaire soccer stadium that was built with public money and given to a Rio team.

if COI was worried about something other than money how would it even accept such a host even to qualify? if the very last international event was a wasting party?


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Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: Tony Mosrite] #556585
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A very interesting commentary, Tony. I was not surprised last week that before the decision was made, a poll showed that just as many Chicagoans opposed th city hosting the games as those, who supported it.

People speak of the economic spike the local economies get from hosting the Olympics, but that money doesn't trickle down very far and more people are inconvenienced than helped.

Anyway, I hope the 2016 Olympics are successful.

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I would love to see the Twins advance to the World Series. No Morneau, meager payroll, but a lot of heart. I don't give them a great shot, but anything is possible.

Since the AL playoff picture is not complete, my NL picks in the division series are LA over St. Louis in 5 and the Phillies over the Rockies in 5.

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Originally Posted By: klydon1
I would love to see the Twins advance to the World Series. No Morneau, meager payroll, but a lot of heart. I don't give them a great shot, but anything is possible.

Since the AL playoff picture is not complete, my NL picks in the division series are LA over St. Louis in 5 and the Phillies over the Rockies in 5.


i want the the dodgers to get there ass kicked...and i want the rockies to advance only to kick the cardinals ass.

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Originally Posted By: BAM_233
i want the the dodgers to get there ass kicked...


I knew there was a reason I liked you grin


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Originally Posted By: klydon1
I would love to see the Twins advance to the World Series. No Morneau, meager payroll, but a lot of heart. I don't give them a great shot, but anything is possible.

Since the AL playoff picture is not complete, my NL picks in the division series are LA over St. Louis in 5 and the Phillies over the Rockies in 5.


I haven't had time to follow the playoff race over the weekend and had no idea it was down to a tie breaker for the Twins and Tigers! This is the Twins last year in their dome right? It would be a great going away present for the fans in that stadium!

How is it that the Twins always hang around to the very end of the season like this? With such a small payroll, they always end up being a thorn in the side of the bigger payroll clubs.


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This tiebreaker between the Tigers and Twins is a game! Lots of action, especially in extra innings!


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Wow Twins win! Amazing game! Did anyone else watch it? If you couldn't enjoy a game like this then there's no way you could ever enjoy baseball.

This might be the kind of game the gives them momentum to play well against the Yankees in the first round.

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It was an absolutely great game! Exciting to the end!


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that was twenty times better than a cubs game this year...i sure hope they beat the yankees...

Re: Major League Baseball '09 [Re: Blibbleblabble] #556700
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Originally Posted By: Blibbleblabble
Wow Twins win! Amazing game! Did anyone else watch it? If you couldn't enjoy a game like this then there's no way you could ever enjoy baseball.

This might be the kind of game the gives them momentum to play well against the Yankees in the first round.


It was an outstanding game, one of the most enjoyable I've seen in a long time. Despite the dome, artificial turf and DH it was a pure game of baseball with a lot at stake and free of the East Coast media overhyping.

Baseball has over time sadly departed (and continues to depart further) from a game that's played on the bases to one where the long ball and sudden cluster scoring are the emphasis. The entire dynamic of the game has been changed by expansion, smaller ballparks, a more juiced up ball, markets with skyrocketing payrolls, among other things. As a result, guys like Nick Punto get lost in the shuffle.

I too would love to see the David slay Goliath, but it is unlikely. Yes, the Twins are riding a wave of excitement into the playoffs, but 12 innings yesterday, a 3:00 am arrival and a 6:30 game tonight will take its toll. They have rarely beaten the hired mercenaries-I mean the Yankees- in the past few years.

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Go get'em Twins!

will I finally find a team to root for? that was a great game. I had to leave after the 10th inning but anyway, I did enjoy the first 4 hours of baseball!


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A local radio station read an email today that went something like this:

Dear Detroit Tigers,
Thank you for the worst collapse in baseball history. It has made 2008 less painful for us.

Signed,
A Grateful Mets Fan


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Now THAT'S funny.

Having not followed baseball at all this season I didn't realize Detroit screwed it up that bad.


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It didn't help that the team manager had to go pick up Miguel Cabrera at a police station over the weekend after a drunken brawl with his wife.


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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
A local radio station read an email today that went something like this:

Dear Detroit Tigers,
Thank you for the worst collapse in baseball history. It has made 2008 less painful for us.

Signed,
A Grateful Mets Fan


I thought 2007 was even more of a collapse for the Mets.

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