LOL at SC's and capo's posts

I never used the ignore (although sometimes tempted) . Do you see all the posts except the one person's you ignored? If that person you ignored is quoted in another post, you'd still see it right?

Ok, back to business.

TIS

I signed it the last I heard it will cost over 1 trillion dollars, yeah I said 1 trillion, and one article I saw stated that this will cause health care costs to actually increase. I wonder what Obama is up to he wants this awfully fast, too fast if you ask me

Yes, Obama is evil plotting to destroy America...by helping (or trying, agree or not) 40+ million Americans.

That son of a bitch.

And yet it's there for all to see.

Maybe you're rubbing off me, in all the wrong ways.

Who knows, maybe by the end of the year, you'll be posting reviews of Steven Seagal movies at FCM.

When a politician has an agenda, their first year in office is when they try to push through those items of importance. They need to strike while the iron is hot.

I love this quote from the President tonight (and I'm paraphrasing), "I'm not talking about me. I HAVE the best healthcare in the world. This is about the people who don't have it." He has summarized my feelings about this issue.

Capo, you may find this a bit out of character, but I agree with your quote. The sad truth is that the USA is becoming one big turd on the inevitable flush. Too many things are broken. Our decaying bridges are not the only thing collapsing.

No TIS, that's not so. The cost of the US military operations in both Iraq and Afghanistan amount to about $1 trillion since inception.

Yes, I read that SB. I feel sorry for the segment of our population who work in low paying jobs or minimum wage jobs. It sucks to be on the bottom of the food chain.
Many of us started there at one time. Some of us worked our way up from the bottom, others as we all know prefer to stay there and let others provide for them.


Like I said I am NOT in favor of giving up what I have earned for "Do Nothing" people.

I am sorry to say that the government will go right back to those smaller businesses and make them pay thru the nose, paying for all of this. Many of them will then slowly let their worker go, as they fail because of the demands put on them. So by trying to help all these extra people you will also put so many small business out there in the same boat.

We bail out the big companies that screwed the public. Banks get tons of money, but have you seen what they are giving all the hard working people who are trying to save a buck in one of their banks. less then 1 to 1.5% interest. Talk about screwing people while they show record profits.

The housing crisis happened because people who couldn't afford homes got them, because "everyone" should have the dream of home ownership. Yea Right!
Everyone made money giving folks home loans or sales commissions on housing sales, but who now pays for it all.Yes, the tax payers once again.

How about student loans. How may people never pay a dime back or very little. But everyone need a college education right. Sure as long as it is on the back of someone else.

What ever happen to pay your own way? Nah, just charge it on a charge card until you have to go bankrupt.
Your right things are like an empty shell, drained by all the take care of me people!

I had a good example today on how fucked up health care is in this country. I recently went for some tests in the hospital. The hospital and Dr's bill came to over $10,000. Since the tests were done "in network" for my health insurance, I didn't have to pay a dime. The doctor and hospital combined got $800 from my insurance company. If I had no insurance, they would have been billing me $10K.

But what of those "Do" People who occupy those lower/lower-middle class jobs which make up the infrastructure of our country who just can't afford a decent health insurance policy for themselves and their families? Not bums, just fucked?

Then again, notice how people with insurance always preach that it's a privlege, not a right. I'm reminded of the Gospel of Wealth mentality in Victorian Times when the rich (most born into money and comfort) would say that the poor could be money too if only God was behind them.



Well big businesses too. Don't be discriminating man. That's unChristian of you.



Already did, its called "Insourcing", you know....foreign cheap labor, most without legitimate green cards?



Yeah fuck those 40 million Americans. They aint American enough.



Bullshit is bi-partisan.



A failing of Compassionate Conservatism and liberalism I suppose.



Of course. What you gonna do about it? Nothing. Don't worry, that's my fate as well.



Some countries have free university education...but its budgets with miniscule military expenditures, i.e. Portugal.

We'll never do that.



Yeah, what happened to that in our Republic founded by George Washington and other wealthy men born to prestige and power?



The government and corporations do that. why not us too?



Who exactly are these..."take care of me" people, and where do they live?

C'mon, be honest. We're all a happy family here.

JL, you're one of fathersson's "Do Nothing" People.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Yeah. Well.

Doesn't the government pay for health care for all its employees, the members of Congress, the president and all the military? That seems to work out.

A couple nights ago I read an article while I was at work and I though it was a good read.


Facts