My mistake, i thought SC was talking about Sinatra in general,but i know SC will think he is in his opinion..

There's actually a much better list on wikipedia then that one. Search List of Italian American Actors on google and it will be the first site that pops up. They have all of them.

Brando is not Italian. If I can't laugh at my self who am I gonna laugh at??????

My favorite actor is CLINT EASTWOOD in general. Because he's a true American. I loved him in Gran Torino where he has friends of other cultures (like i do) and he makes fun of their race as a joke, and they don't get offended over it. It's only the real far to the left hippy kind of folks that take stuff to the extreem. I love what he said on the Hannity show once. He said "what happened to the old days where somebody could say a race joke without the other person getting offended?" He also said that "we have lost our sense of humor." That is so true. Maybe it could be that they're the true racists......

I agree 100%.... Al Pacino is the best one. I was really disappointed in "A Time To Kill." I thought 'cause it had DeNiro and Pacino it would be good. But I was wrong.

"A Time To Kill" starred Samuel L. Jackson, Matthew McConaughey and Kevin Spacey. I don't believe any of them are Italian.

And please don't use words like "dago". They are racist, and unless I'm mistaken, the use of racist terms in a post is against the rules on this board.

Yea, don't you just hate that? I mean Hannity can't be wrong. Another topic I think.


TIS

And Pacino and DeNiro, who were both born here, aren't "true" Americans? Do you even realize how overtly racist the statement "true American" is? Or maybe it's just their dark complexions that make them less American, huh?

Sean Hannity is a self loathing troglodyte.

Yeah, we've lost our sense of humor. Wasn't it just great when we could just laugh about the great old days of segregation and slavery

Perhaps DiMaggio didn't mean it as it sounded. I see he has Pacino as his favorite actor in his profile.

Anyway, he's probably expressing what many (including some here on the BB) actually feel but won't say.


TIS

I know, Tis. DiMaggio seems like a nice enough fella. Sean Hannity just brings out the worst in me .

I'm with you PB!!!




TIS

good thing i dont watch that crap like you PB and TIS lol

PB, you have to keep in mind that talk show hosts are performers who play to their audiences. In that way they are not unlike Pacino and DeNiro who have played murderers in films to please their audiences.

I don't think anyone has mentioned James Gandolfini.

Joe Pantalioni
Dean Martin - just love his demeanor.
Joe Pesci
DeNiro
Paul Sorvino
Dominick Chianese

did anybody mention james caan?

I was wrong about the movie. It was "Rightous Kill" that I was thinking of. It was all bad. On the word thing if it offends you then dats your problema...........

Thank You!!!!!

Obviously you misunderstood me. I think you're being a huge instigator here. I'm 100% Sicilian and Proud of my heritage. I didn't get Sicilian Pride on my back in old English lettering for no reason. A true American to me is somebody like Rudolph Giuliani (Italian American), Neil Cavuto (Italian American), John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Sean Hannity, Paul Sorvino (Italian American), Tony Sirico (Italian American), Charleston Heston and last but not least Ronald Reagan.

About DeNiro- did you know he's only got a tiny bit of Italian blood? He's mostly of French and Irish descent.

No, it's not MY problem. It's against the rules of this board, which makes it YOUR problem.

Don't use any racial euphemisms here. You should know what most of them are. You may not, personally, be upset when someone uses a certain word or phrase, but others may, and in fairness to all those words should not be used.

I'm not trying to instigate you. It's just that I hate stereotypes, especially the stereotype of the Italian-American cafone. It drives me up a wall. I grew up in the Belmont section of the Bronx, where the mob was prevelant and stereotypes were rampant. But my parents made damn sure that I didn't speak like the token Italian-American in a cheesy sitcom. I was born in 1959, so I kind of remember when Italians were treated as not fully "white." Kind of like the Latinos are today, which gives me a great deal of empathy for them.

I don't like to post much about my personal life, but I think this is relevant for you to understand where I'm coming from. So here's a quick story:

Like many Italians, my brother and I have what I guess you'd call a traditional "olive" complexion. But in the summer, my brother gets so dark he could easily pass for Middle Eastern. When we were kids, my aunt (who is a self loathing piece of shit) took us to her husband's country club up in Westchester. It was a gorgeous summer day and we were having a great time. Two Bronx kids up in "the country." Then my aunt's husband starts yelling at me to get my brother out of the sun; that people were going to think we belonged to the Mexican laborers who worked the grounds. It was mortifying for me (I was 12, my brother was 8 at the time). Now when my father found out, he beat my aunt's husband to a fucking pulp. Cops were involved, the whole nine yards. Now that sounds pretty cool, right? But it's not. Not when you're 12 years old and you just found out that you'll never be considered fully "white" in the eyes of the wasp masses. Not when your 8 year old brother thinks he's responsible for your father spending the weekend in the tombs. At that age, it's a fucking nightmare. So please, forgive me if I get a little testy on the subject of Italian stereotypes. Our saving grace is that today, Italian-Americans are the single most upwardly mobile group of all European immigrants. So with all due respect, tattoo that on your back.

I did know that about DeNiro. When his father died, I worked the funeral. I was surprised to see that most of his family had red hair and fair skin. It was then that I found out that he wasn't even close to being a full blooded Italian.

I'm glad I didn't call you a gavone for eating a quart of ices.

But that was a cafone thing for me to do. I ain't perfect. .

Nice to see you're still reading my posts.

Neither am I. As you know I always talk about Spumoni Gardens... well, about 20 years ago I was there after working all night and was STARVED. I ordered 8 squares (slices) and the counter guy asked me if he should wrap them up. I told him, "No, I'll eat them now". Without pause he replied, "Marone, what a gavone". He said it laughingly and I had to laugh, too.

Somebody please translate these (presumably) Italian words here - cafone, gavone, marone

Cafone is the only one that's actually a word in Italian. It's an uncouth person. A boor. A lout.

Gavone is a common misnomer for the word cafone.

Marone is kind of a dialect for Madonna, or Holy Mother of God; something to that effect. It's usually used to express shock, like, "Madonne, did you see the size of that fucking guy?"

That'll be ten dollars for the lesson in Italo-Bonics.

And isn't today the PERFECT day for a trip to L&B?

To me, being almost a tourist in Brooklyn (even though I worked there and have family there all my life), nothing says summertime like a road trip to Spumoni Gardens.

Oh, eight squares?

Madonne! (That's how to use the word Madonne! )

Mario Puzo had the best definition of a cafone. There's this guy who shovels manure for a living. He's always dirty and smells like manure. His boss dies and the manure-shoveler gets the opportunity to buy the business. He becomes fairly well-off, buys up some more manure businesses, and becomes even wealthier. He buys a big house, gets nice clothes, becomes a big-shot. However, there's always this small piece of shit still stuck to his shoe.

Good lesson PB. But what you are typing as "Maron" is actually spelled and pronounced "Madonna" almost like it is in English.

As far as DeNiro goes, with what ethnicity does he identify himself (similar to Obama who is half-white, but apparentlyy idenitifies with black race)? Have any Board members read his biography?

That was my doing. I spell them as I pronounce them... it's more of a New York Italian (including "gavone").

Although he is commonly referred to as an Italian-American actor, De Niro is actually one-quarter Italian in ancestry. His father was half-Irish and half- Italian. His mother was of French, Dutch and German ancestry. He was, however, quite close to his Italian paternal grandfather, whom Robert visited frequently in Syracuse, NY when he was young. De Niro has stated that he identifies "more with [his] Italian side".