Yogi, Olivant has you beat ten fold. He is absolutely correct - shopping with women and or girls is the ultimate in frustration...and God help you if you are asked for and actually voice your opinion! The wrong response could result in another two hours of hell! If Bush really wanted to torture terror suspects, he would have sent them to a mall with a mom, her daughter, three no limit credit cards and two of the daughter's BFF's! eek