I'm not interested in this question because it's irrelevant. I'm a Marxist; by extension, a humanist, an egalitarian. I don't see any genuine socialist policies in the current US set-up. You can make "progress" this way and that, but without the abolishment of capitalism, any leeway is still going to leave gross and abhorred injustices. [/quote]

And has your nation abolished capitalism?

Better yet, which nations have "socialism" within your context succeeded within their goals without betraying them?