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Michael-Solozzo Help #5339
12/24/03 12:11 PM
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cmascagni Offline OP
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I am brand new to the board, I have really enjoyed reading your discussions. Some help please..What are Michael and Solozzo saying in Italian?
Who kills the shooters at Tahoe in GF II?

Thanks..

Re: Michael-Solozzo Help #5340
12/24/03 12:21 PM
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Good Morning Cm.....,
Welcome to the best legal entertainment on the internet. Here is my interpretation of what Mike and Virgil are saying.
Virgil: Sorry to see what that big jerky Mick cop did to ya.
Mike: Thanks, it only hurts when I do anything with my mouth.
Virgil: Now, about the deal. Your father is old fashion and he's a little hard-headed. I think we could really both benefit by this deal. Its the future.
Mike: How do you say.....(then he changes to English)

Of course I'm paraphrasing, but I think FFC left out the subtitles so you would concentrate on their expressions. I'm sure we could all figure out what was being said. The sentiment was important, not the exact words.

Regarding the Tahoe shooters. There have been many theories posted here. Its been one of the top ten topics. Use the search and you can find reems of opinions. What's yours?


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Re: Michael-Solozzo Help #5341
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Thanks Mary... Tahoe Shooters- for the longest time I had no idea. If Fredo knew that there was going to be a hit on Michael, then it makes sense that Fredo's men killed them. I guess I always thought Fredo really was played and didn't know they were trying to kill Michael so I was always confused.

Re: Michael-Solozzo Help #5342
12/24/03 02:51 PM
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I believe that Fredo knew what happend and in return covered up his own tracts by having his men kill the shooters. I'm sure Fredo told them where to get in, then he opend the drapes. He also told them a place they could escape and had his own men waiting there for them. Not as dumb as you think I guess....?


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Re: Michael-Solozzo Help #5343
12/24/03 03:35 PM
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Right here, but I'd rather be ...
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I beleive that the shooters were tangled in a net trap then drowned. If you pay attention to what is happening when they find the shooters Michaels men are fishing the bodies out of the water in the background. And i think that Fredo didn't know that it would be a hit. I beleive he only wanted them to spy on Mike. Also rember back to his conversation he has on the phone in bed. I beleive he says "You guys lied to me!" or something along those lines.


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Re: Michael-Solozzo Help #5344
12/24/03 11:29 PM
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I don't know about the Tahoe shooters, who knows, maybe they committed suicide? As for the Michael/Sollozzo conversation, all I can tell you at this point is that Sollozzo keeps referring to the Don and how he was fading, the Don and his old ways, the Don, the Don, tu padre, tu padre. It became too repetitive.

Re: Michael-Solozzo Help #5345
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It seems to me Italian is alot like Spanish. I cant speak either but if someone is Speaking Spanish usually I can get the gist of the conversation. The same seems to be true with the Sollozo/Michael conversation. It's been a while but I know he says something like his ideas are antique.


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Re: Michael-Solozzo Help #5346
12/25/03 12:48 AM
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No where
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It was Johnny Ola's men

Re: Michael-Solozzo Help #5347
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That killed the shooters?

Re: Michael-Solozzo Help #5348
12/25/03 07:08 AM
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Fredo's telephone conversation script was changed at the last minute though.

Anyone got the transcript of what Cazale originally recorded, before it was (badly) over dubbed?

Re: Michael-Solozzo Help #5349
12/25/03 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by The Scottish Don:
Anyone got the transcript of what Cazale originally recorded, before it was (badly) over dubbed?
I just checked the second draft of Part II's script and interestingly enough there is no dialogue for (or mention of) that scene.


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