Here it is with a great story about Lombardo... http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/421215,CST-NWS-mob10.article

I can't get to that link for some reason

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/421215,CST-NWS-mob10.article
Try this one?

That's it mate,thanks!

Good article that.

Anybody have any information on a Mobster from the 60's/70's out of Chicago, named Louis "Lou the Taylor" Rosanova?? Heard him described as a "top cheiftain". Also heard he was included in an hierarchy listed in Joe Valachi's book???? Any info would be appreciated!!

I wonder who is running the day to day activities of the gambinos now that both jackie nose and nick corozoo are both in jail/under indictment?

Angelo LaPietra died back in 1999. He had only been out of prison four years. He had been convicted in the famous Strawman Case back in 1985. He was convicted of skimming the profits from mob-controlled Las Vegas casinos in the 1970s and '80s.

It should be pointed out that BDuff did not assemble any of these charts he claims to have made. He just copied them from numerous posters on another message board (www.realdeal-forum.com) and brought them here and pasted them and claimed them as his own.

An article that came out a few weeks ago mentioned Danny Marino, John Gambino, and Bobby Vernace as being on the current panel. It remains to be seen if that's really true though.

yeah I read that article as well but as with all of organized crime we wont really know the "truth" until there is some case brought on by the Feds against somebody where wiretap evidence or a flipped member testifies as to who is the current hierarchy of the Gambinos.

LCN The Detroit Partnership/Combination:Heres my compiled list.?

BOSS:Giacamo "Black Jack" Tocco
UNDERBOSS:Anthony "Tony Z" Zerilli
CONSIGLIERE:Anthony "Tawn" Tocco
STREET BOSS:Vito "Billy Jack" Giacalone
CAPOS:Jack "Jackie the Kid" Giacalone
Anthony "Fat Tony" Giacalone jr.
Joseph "Joey Jack" Giacalone
Frank"Frankie the Bomb" Bommarito
Anthony "Chicago Tony" Lapiana
Antonio "T.R." Ruggirello Sr.
Peter Tocco
Anthony "Tony Pal" Palazolla
Soldiers:Paul "Big Paulie" Corrado
Peter "Baby Bull" Corrado
Peter "Fat Pete" Corrado
Dominic "Chicago Dom" Corrado
David "Ace" Aceto
Salvatore "Mops" Tocco
Paul Tocco
Joe Tocco
Sam "Junior" Tocco
Peter "Specs" Tocco
Jack "Little Jackie" Tocco jr.
Anthony "Little Tony" Tocco
Joseph "Little Joey Jack" Giacalone
Jack "Jackie The Nose" Giacalone
Anthony "Little Tony Lung" Cimini Jr.
Vincent "Big Vince" Meli
Paul Meli
Carl Meli
John DAgostino
Fabio DAgostino
Guiseppi "The Zip" DAgostino
Massimo DAgostino
Dominic Bommarito
Carlo Bommarito
John "JP" Bommarito
Matthew "Matty the Bomber" Bommarito
Robert "Bobby the Tiger" Lapuma
James "Jimmy the Gambler" Baratta
Eugene "Genie Boy" Baratta
Mario "Mimi" Depelle
Francisco "Fritzy" Depelle
Joseph "Joey Low" Mudaro
Frank "Moody" Mudaro
Anthony "Tony B" Bagnasco
Louis Oddo
Sammy "Sammy Low" Lobaido
Joseph "Joey Low" Lobaido
Angelo "Barrels" Lombardi
Anthony "Kango" Imbrunone
Michael "Bruno" Bartalotta
Joe Barbara Jr
Andrew "Tat" Barbara
Joe Badalmenti
Caesar Badalmenti
Jack "Big Jackie" Russo
Vincent "Jimmy Jacobs" Finazzo
Raymond Guarlesimo
Luigi "Louie the Bulldog" Ruggirello
Sam Evola
Jack "Jackie C" Gianosa
Frank "Frankie Boo" Buffa
Eddie"Brokie" Guarella
Salvatore "Sammy Rocks" Misuraca
William"Billy Lee" Lociacano
Joe Mantraga
Joe Mirabile
Anthony Nuccio
Giovanni Nuccio
Salvatore "Little Sammy Pal" Palazolla
Frank "Frankie Pal" Palazolla
Sam "Sammy G" Giordano
August"Little Augie" Giordano
Don Fragale
Rico Prizioli
Jack "Fat Jackie" Lucido
Sebastian "Buster" Lucido
Sam Lucido
Danny Bruno
Anthony "Tony Razz" Randazzo
Dominic "Fat Dom" Vivio
Phillipp Zerilli
Dominic Licavoli
Peter Trupiano
Pat Carlini
James "Biff" Magcagmone
Danny Triglia
Danny Tringale
Dominic Vicarri
Joe Messina
Pete Messina
John Sciarotta
Vincenzo"Vinnie Meatballs" Bronzino
James "Jimmy the Golfer" Nerea
Isodoro"Teddy SanDiego" Matranga
Girolana"Jerry the Manager" Vitale
Tommy Vitale
Frank "Cheech" Bombrisco
Dominic "Dom from Dearborn" Moceri
Louis "Butchie" Stramalgia
Joseph "Big Joe" Viccari
Leonard "Skippy" Torrice
Henry Petrella
Leonard "Leo Monday" Monteleone
Salavtore "Sammy Soup" Lentini
Frank Versaci
Antonio "Tony the Barber" Foglia
James Presti
Sam Ventigmilla
Joe Ventigmilla
William "Buffalo Bill" Gibera
Frank "New York Frankie" Inglese
John "New York Johnny" Cussamano
Dominic Allevato
Anthony Abate
Peter "Potato Chip Pete" DeAngelo
John Jarjosa-Made?
Alessando Sucurro




Also there has probably been some more Capos and Soldiers added in the last couple years as Detroit seems to open the books about every 10 years.?
Approx:75-100 "Made" Men and Numerous Associates.?

This is actually the latest information on the Detroit hierarchy -

Boss: Giacomo “Black Jack” Tocco
Underboss: Joseph “Joe Hooks” Mirabile
Consigliere: Dominic “Uncle Dom” Bommarito

Street Boss: Jackie “Jackie the Kid” Giacalone

Captains:
Frank “Frankie the Bomb” Bommarito
Anthony “Chicago Tony” La Piana
Joseph “Joey Jack” Giacalone
Peter “Blackie” Tocco
Anthony “Tony Pal” Palazzola

Not to sound like a douch, but id go with IvyLeague.
The guy knows his shit.

Damm, you dont read/hear anything about the Detroit or Buffalo Family.. those two are under the radar like crazy

There are 9 families that are still considered pretty much across the board to be viable - the five New York families, New England, New Jersey, Philadelphia, and Chicago.

On the flip side are areas where there are still members left but not really a formally structured, viable family. Those would include Pittsburgh, Tampa, Cleveland, Kansas City, Los Angeles, and other places.

Then there are two families in a sort of grey area. Buffalo and Detroit. The families are still there, at least technically, but they don't have the size or activity level of Chicago, New England, New Jersey, or Philadelphia, let alone the five New York families.

I should add that the chart I posted is from a poster on another forum who is an author and has written a very good book on the Detroit mob and is currently working on one about the Chicago mob.

He and myself do disagree on some things though. He currently puts the Detroit family at anywhere from 45-55 members. I feel that number is inflated considering the fact that back in the mid-1990's when much of the family leadership was indicted, the FBI had them at no more than 30 members. And frankly, compared to other "mid-sized" families like Chicago, New England, New Jersey, and Philadelphia, who are in that range, there just isn't the same level of mob activity in Detroit. In the past decade, there have only been two mob-related cases in Detroit. One in 2006 and another last year.

Contacts, contacts, contacts...
i need me a few of those. Reliable ones like.

Cool. Ive come to appreciate the fact that there's heaps of hyperbole and only a handful of reliable sources in regards to accurate information on present day Mob Families. We all know how dated 90% of the info available is. Of course we follow the articles by the authors, like Capeci, Anastasia, Deitch etc, and regularly check out our favourite sites, but i personally have managed to learn more, to further my own research devoloping leads & discovering new keywords to search with, scouring for articles on mobsters id previously never heard of, etc, etc - this through following & interacting with the posters on this organised crime/mafia message board.

Having said that, one sorta has to appreciate that with such few reliable sources, most if not all the accurate information comes from the same handful of sites sources. I mean, I live in bloody Australia! I'll never gonna be out there, investigating the families, in a trenchcoat & fedora, surveilling, staking out, building up my charts. Hell, even if i could, what am i, an idiot? Where the hell else am i gonna get information on a subject that interests me but from sources on the internet?

Still, id love like an ex-cop or author source like that. How sick would that be? That would be the shit.

As far as the family charts go, at least for the five New York families, Buffalo, New England, New Jersey, Philadelphia, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh, have all come from a well known poster who has posted on several OC forums over many years. He gets his information for organized crime reports, indictments, press releases, articles, etc. Each time a guy is identified as a member, including what his position is, he is added to the chart. Others help with this, of course, if they come across new information.

There are also charts of Chicago, Detroit, Tampa, and Los Angeles have come from others sources, including authors and former law enforcement.

If u wanna take a serious look at the Detroit Partnership and why they have flown under the radar for almost a century because of many intermarriages,etc check out a book written in 2006 by Scott Burnstein for all of u who havent brushed shoulders with wiseguys or grown up around em this will give u a good look at Detroit and all info less than 5 years old.Its called "Motor City Mafia A Century of organized Crime in Detroit".These guys are still makin millions and now we got Casinos in Detroit and we had our casinos in Vegas also.
Read this and u will find out why theyll never find Hoffa because in Detroit Snitches end up in Lake Michigan-lol.

Thanks for the recommendation about the glory days of the Detroit Mob.
I've seen that book in the local lore section at Borders.

That chart I posted above is from Scott. The Detroit family had interests in Las Vegas casinos, like the Aladdin, but that was back in the 1970's. I'm not sure what casinos in Detroit you're talking about. But the family still controls the sports betting and high stakes card games in the region. And, while Hoffa was certainly killed by the mob, nobody knows exactly what happened to him or where he ended up. Just that Giacalone and Tony Pro were the most likely involved.

Any idea on the mapping of the Patriarca/ New England Family?

Boss: Luigi "Baby Shacks" Manocchio (however recent reports have said he has stepped down as boss and Peter Limone has replaced him).

Underboss: Carmine "The Cheeseman" DiNunzio (however recent reports have said he has stepped down as underboss and Robert "Bobby Cigar" DeLuca has replaced him).

(No known Consigliere at the present time)

Captains:
Joseph “Joe the Bishop” Achille Sr
Robert "Bobby Cigar" DeLuca
Anthony DiNunzio
Anthony Parillo
Mark Rossetti
Antonio "Spucky" Spagnolo

Soldiers (Boston):
William Angelesco
Francisco “Frank the Cat” Angiulo
Vincent Capone
John Cincotti
Robert “Bobby” Carrozza
Greg “Fat Boy” Costa
Biagio “Benny” DiGiacomo
Vincent "Vinny Fed" Federico
Vincent “The Animal” Ferrara
Richard “Richie” Floramo
Richard “Richie the Pig” Gambale
Vincent “Dee Dee” Gioacchini
Frank Imbruglia
Ralph “Ralphie Chong” Lamattina
Dennis “Champagne” LePore
James “Jimmy” Martorano
Junior Pingaro
Pryce Quintina
Stephen Rossetti
John “Jackie” Salemme
Frederick “Freddie the Neighbor” Simone
Carmen Tortora

Soldiers (Providence):
Richard Bonafiglia
Vito “The Ox” DeLuca
William "Billy Blackjack" Delsanto
Rocco "Rocky" Folco
Pasquel “Patsy” Galea
Matthew "Matty Gugs" Gugliemetti Jr
Edward "Eddie" Lato
Frank “BoBo” Marrapese
Raymond “Junior” Patriarca
Joseph Ruggiero
Rudolph Sciarra
Alfred "Chippy" Scivola
Anthony "The Saint" St. Laurent

Soldiers (Connecticut):
Anthony “Tony the Beaver” Ascenzia Jr
Salvatore “Butch” D'Aquila
Mariano “Mario” Grasso
Dominic Marangelli
Americo “The Cigar” Petrillo

Also check out the great news piece called "State of the Mob" that was done in 2007. On the right you'll find some multimedia links. Click on the "Patriarca Crime Family Tree" to see some of the top guys and others in the family.

http://www.projo.com/extra/2007/mob/

I know that Dinunzio was put in prison recently, and that his shop in the North End is closed. I also know that one of their Capos was put in prison a few years ago, i made a post about that. He had his own Pizza connection going on to his "West End pizza" place which i've past many times.

I wonder if there is any record of a guy who was a soldier at the time, don't know if he retired or if he was clipped, but he knew a guy i used to work for. Unfortunately i only knew his first name. I do have a story about the New England Mob, but i'll either pm you about it or post in a different thread if you're interested.

Is a current chart for Tampa & L.A possibly feasible at the moment?
Tampa in particular proves difficult to follow, with good current articles few & far between (i jump all over new work by Deitch) As i think i stated in an older thread, Vincent LoScalzo is either incredibly, incredibly cautious or inactive, happy to let New York move in & take charge. Ive never even heard of any mobsters paying a LoScalzo a tax to operate, as was required in the days of Trafficante Jr.

Also the LA Family, the Mickey Mouse Mafia...
While they definitly seem to sound like a bit of a joke these days, less a family than a "glorified crew" (ha)
there are a couple of guys that are of interest to me. I guess my attempt at a chart would go:

BOSS: PETER MILANO aka "Shakes"
*Kenny Gallo has stated that the nickname Shakes is the invention of a turncoat witness picked up by media sources & not infact used by members.

CAPO's: Tomasso "Tommy" Gambino
(a Cherry Hill Gambino, may in fact belong to New York, but he is in a Californian prison and is said by some to be selling Sicilian heroin on the West Coast)

Jimmy Caci
Louis Caruso

Soldiers:Stephen "The Whale" Cino
Michael "Porno Mike" Esposito
John Vaccaro
Joe Isgro
James Testa (inactive?)
Rocco Zangari (inactive?)

Associates:Leonard Montana
& a dude nicknamed "Pizza Joe" somethingsomething...
aaaargh i lost it.

I have little doubt that my chart will prove innaccurate and would appreciate any insight.

The chart i posted came out of Scott Burnsteins book as far as The Boss,Underboss,Consigliere,Street Boss,Capos and some Soldiers of the Detroit Partnership.The current list ive seen shows about 75 made members still alive in Detroit not including Associates and ties elsewhere,etc.I would assume that the Detroit Mafia is actually bigger than we estimate by alot and also u have another generation of extended family members coming up.If u read and study on Detroit about every 10 years theres a making ceremony.Plus there is a few more Capos then listed.
Also they still hold a seat on the commission.They have flown under the radar because they have had only 2 known snitches in the familys existence for 1-and they didnt know to much shit-one was a Soldier{Nove Tocco} and i dont know if the other was made. Not like the rest of these familys that everyone has being a rat as an option even the Boss in some cases-Joe"Rat" Massino-Bonano family.Plus alot of them have Crews in the same family wanting to kill each other,etc instead of being the family there supppost to be-What happen to Omerta?-The 1%er M.C.s. are becoming as strong and more reliable then "made" LCN guys.
They have Kept the hierarchy of Detroit very closenit over the last century between the Zerillis,Toccos,Corrado,Bommaritos,etc and marrying Daughters to some higher ups in NewYork Familys in the past.example:Tony Tocco and Tony Zerilli both married one of Godfather Joe Profacis daughters.
Just within the city limits we have MGM Grand Casino,Greektown casino,Motor City Casino,etc also Anthony"Tony Z" Zerilli did time for owning interest in the Frontier,etc or he would probably still would be boss like his Father "UNO" before him but his Posistion didnt last long because of court charges and he got demoted and his Cousin Jack took the seat which he still holds30+ years later and Anthony still sits in the Underboss Posistion even while he was/is incarcereated. -I have known some of the older Members of the partnership most deceased as my family was invoved with training and taking care of horses owned by some of the partnership,etc in the 70s and 80s.
Tony Giacalone had some of his crew take Hoffa to one of the Detroit mobs many Funeral homes that they owned at the time and had him cremated is my theory-never to be seen again.Dust in the Wind.

The Tampa and Los Angeles families are, to borrow a line from The Sopranos, what you would call "glorified crews" at this point.

Tampa

Vincent LoScalzo - is the boss is what is left of the family

Other members -

Francisco "Frank" Albano
Antonio Amorelli
Ciro Bedami
Joseph Camero
Salvatore "Sam" Carollo
Joseph DiGerlando
Michael Napoli
Santo Jose Trafficante
James Valenti

Los Angeles
Peter "Shakes" Milano - is boss of what is left of the family

Vincent "Jimmy" Caci - is a captain

Louis "Little Louie" Caruso - is a captain, lives in Arizona where he has an AC repair business

Thomaso "Tommy" Gambino - some internet rumors have said he was underboss. He came to the west coast for his protection and was made into the family.

John "Johnny V" Vaccaro - soldier
Michael "Porno Mike" Esposito - soldier
Paulo "Paulie Tattoos" Rossi - soldier
James Testa - soldier
Steve "The Whale" Cino - soldier
Leonardo "Limping Lenny" Montana - either an associate or soldier
Michael "Sports Bar Mike" Russo - either an associate or soldier

Scott's book came out in 2006. The updated chart I posted came directly from him this past February.



There is no way Detroit has 75 members today. Probably not even half that. 15 years ago the FBI had them at 30 members at most.



Better to go by actual demonstrable facts than assumptions. There just isn't any evidence for the Detroit mob being that big. Only 2 mob-related cases in Detroit over the past decade.



They did at one time but not now. They haven't for years. In fact, for at least the past two decades now the Commission has basically consisted of only the five New York families. There is no longer a national body of bosses like there once was.

Freakin' sweet.
Thank you, IvyLeaugue. Thanks heaps. I like it.

If u think Detroit has only 30 "made" Members than u aint from the D or ever lived there because its guaranteed we have at least that many "Soldiers".U dont need 5-10 Capos if u dont have Soldiers for them to control?
I Would like to see any list showing "Dominic Bommarito" in The Combination Hierarchy or "Mirable" because i havent,heard,seen, read anything stating that till seeing your post.
Why is Zerilli supposively not Underboss after 30+years or Tony Tocco the Consigliere?Neither have passed away or faced new indictments?I am very curious about that.
Giacalones will be at the top of the heap when the old guard passes the torch As Tony and Vito had 6 sons between them that are involved with the family and outsiders believe Capo Jack"Jackie the Kid"Giacalone will be the next Boss.?Anthony"Tony Jack" Giacalone has/had been assumed boss by many outsiders but was always the "Street Boss" or a Capo till he died in 2001 and his brother Vito was named "Street Boss" after that and he hasnt died or retired."Jackie the Kid" is Vitos son.
Heck theres 6-7 made guys named Giacalone,5-6 guys named Bommarito,5-10 guys named Tocco,numerous Corrados plus the Zerillis,4-5 Ruggirellos,etc.Thats close to 20+ "made" guys right there.Jerry Capeci ranges the Luchese family between 110-175 members and i know Detroit isnt much smaller with all its "Soldiers" My estimate:75-100 in the D.Plus Detroit has a better Economy again than its had in the past with all the new business,construction,casinos,etc.also we have members in Ohio,Canada,etc.