That's the tricky part for Rose. What he did was a "mortal sin" as a manager. I've heard that one of the rules for HoF voters is character and what the person has done to improve the image of the sport, so I understand why he's not in the Hall now. But as a player he was one of the greatest hitters and played as hard as anybody. It's sad to think that if he had just retired instead of becoming a manager, then he'd probably be in the the HoF.