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Another boss bites the dust #511947
09/27/08 06:22 AM
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Former Rochester boss, Frank J Valenti dies in a nursing home at 97 on Saturday 20th. He was one of the last surviving attendees at the Apalachin conference in 1957.

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Bonanno Family Consigliere, Anthony Spero has died age 79. He was given a life sentence after being implicated by Bonanno drug associates, the Bath Avenue Boys. He was replaced by Anthony Graziano.

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Frank "Lefty" Rosenthal dies in Florida of heart attack aged 79.

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Originally Posted By: Lompac
Frank "Lefty" Rosenthal dies in Florida of heart attack aged 79.


When I first bought my place in Florida, he was kind of managing his nephew's place in Boca. I think it was called "Croc's," short for crocodiles. I went in a few times, being that it was close by. He seemed like a typical Florida retiree to me. VERY cranky. lol

Oh well, RIP Ace, er, I mean Lefty. whistle


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Poor old Lefty ohwell


I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees!
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Robert "Cabert" Bisaccia, 73, a Gambino Capo.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/07/nyregion/07towns.html?scp=1&sq=bisaccia&st=cse

Requiem for a Tough Guy With a Joe Pesci Style

By PETER APPLEBOME

NUTLEY, N.J.

For one night, at least, it seemed like the good old days — old virtues, old vices, old wounds, old friends.

Since the scene in question was Thursday night at the S. W. Brown & Son Funeral Home, where the legendary New Jersey mobster Robert Bisaccia was getting his final sendoff before Friday’s cremation, it was not exactly an upbeat affair. But still.

Along with the standard horrific economic news, the front page of The Star-Ledger had the kind of long, knowing obituary that used to be a staple of Garden State news. Mr. Bisaccia, a traditionalist in his line of work, and a man known for his sense of humor, would have found the headline, “Iconic ‘Goodfella’ Robert Bisaccia, 73, Dies in Prison,” hilarious.

The crowd of mostly large, tough-looking men and subdued family members had the solid, no-nonsense look of folks likely to be doing something more respectable than bundling derivatives, shorting stocks or selling mortgage-backed securities. The giant wreaths — red heart, white crosses — the photographs by the casket, one of the deceased, another of a racehorse, all bespoke a sense of tradition.

And people’s memories, both those of enemies and friends, were of a classic old-school guy, either a violent throwback to the glory days of the mighty Gambino family in New Jersey or a man’s man who played tough but always by the rules, whatever they were.

“He always said, ‘Once I get out of here,’ — which he always believed he would — ‘We’re gonna go to the racetrack and you and me are going to have a martini on the finish line,’ ” said his nephew Anthony Margotta Jr., a horse trainer, on Friday.

Earlier in the day, Mr. Margotta, 46, had put an old scuffed softball in his uncle’s hand (he got his nickname, Bobby Cabert — a combination of K, the symbol for a strikeout, and Robert — for his skill as a fireballing softball pitcher) and pushed the button to begin the cremation. “He was one of the most loving uncles in the world — funny, charming, one of a kind — and his advice was always to do the right thing. Always. Don’t do anything shady. Don’t do anything wrong.”

Alas, that’s not the way Mr. Bisaccia is remembered by law enforcement officials in New Jersey who had stalked him since the 1960s. They say he began as a minor figure in the Gambino family who rose to become John J. Gotti’s powerful capo in New Jersey, and was admired and feared for his toughness, ferocity and willingness to do whatever was asked of him.

He was convicted of racketeering in a circuslike 13-month trial in state court.

During the trial, there were near-fistfights in court, and Mr. Bisaccia taunted witnesses and the judge, complaining he was being railroaded. A juror’s car windows were riddled with bullets, another was offered $500 to vote for an acquittal. Four of Mr. Bisaccia’s outbursts got him barred from the court, the last one permanently.

He was later convicted in federal court of a New York killing said to have been ordered by Mr. Gotti and sentenced to life. Prosecutors say Mr. Bisaccia could be charming and funny — his ability to change moods in a moment was said to have inspired part of the performance by Joe Pesci, a longtime friend, in the film “Goodfellas.”

Mr. Gotti, in a videotaped jailhouse conversation, once talked about how Mr. Bisaccia could find humor in a negative biopsy from prison. “He said, ‘Sure, if I was out on the street they’d tell me I got two weeks to live. I’m doing life, so it’s benign.’ ”

But Robert H. Codey, one of the prosecutors in the New Jersey trial, said no one should romanticize Mr. Bisaccia or the violent world he prospered in.

“The adjective for him is ‘ruthless,’ ” Mr. Codey said. “The reason he was picked for the New York murder was because they knew he was not afraid to walk up to someone in broad daylight and put a bullet in his head.”

Mr. Bisaccia contended until he died that he was innocent of the charge and that he had been convicted solely on the testimony of Salvatore Gravano, a mob informant, who is now back in prison and whose veracity has been called into question.

“In my 24 years, I never had a client more involved in his case and more adamant about his innocence,” said John Vincent Saykanic, who represented Mr. Bisaccia in his final appeals. “He had this fury, this fury about it. He wrote me all the time.”

AND though his enemies and friends don’t agree on much, they do agree he was one of the very last of his kind, old-school to the end, a man who would rather swallow glass than inform on an associate.

“There aren’t many left like him,” said Robert T. Buccino, now chief of detectives in Union County, who testified against Mr. Bisaccia for 28 days at the state trial. “You can count them on one hand. And one thing about Bobby Cabert, he never talked. He never would. Which is not happening anymore. They get a wrong sentence, and they turn in a minute. Cabert would have taken a bullet rather than rat out a friend.”

Inside the funeral home there was chatter about the old days, Mr. Bisaccia’s wit, lots of small talk (“You look like a movie star.” “I am.”)

There was a short service and people got in their cars, mostly big American cars like Hummers, Lincoln Town Cars, Cadillacs and Ford Expeditions, for a reception at the Chandelier in Belleville.

The leaders of the Three Families from Detroit were in Washington looking for any offer they couldn’t refuse. Maybe if Mr. Bisaccia and his pals were still going strong, they wouldn’t need a bailout.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Another boss bites the dust [Re: Lilo] #523727
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I know mate, I wouldn't have believed me either.

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confused confused


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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I mean't your verification on Bisaccia.

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damn it man, Lilo just wanted to give us more information!





He - (Simón Bolívar) - was shaken by the overwhelming revelation that the headlong race between his misfortunes and his dreams was at that moment reaching the finishing line. The rest was darkness. "Damn it," He sighed. "How will I ever get out of this labyrinth!"

So what’s the labyrinth?

That’s the mystery isn’t it? Is the labyrinth living or dying? Which is he trying to escape - the world, or, the end of it?
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I know he did. But why was Spero and Valenti "ignored"?

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William Stepp and Ron Carey, Teamsters leader.

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I was told that Vic Amuso had died. Anyone know otherwise?

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Where did you "hear" that???


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
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Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Now that wouldn't surprise me..


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
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I said I was told, I didn't post it here claiming he had died.

And he hasn't.

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Who told you?


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
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Originally Posted By: Lompac
I was told that Vic Amuso had died.


rolleyes

Well then, someone should "tell" the Federal Bureau of Prisons, because whether he's dead or alive, he's still in his cell at the Big Sandy Federal Lockup in Kentucky.


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Originally Posted By: Lompac
I said I was told, I didn't post it here claiming he had died.

And he hasn't.


Didn't you notice this?

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But again you failed to backup your story, when i asked you who..


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
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panic

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