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Re: Atheists, Agnostics and Christmas [Re: long_lost_corleone] #525477
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Originally Posted By: long_lost_corleone
I think, in the end, it's an excuse to get a kick out of my gigantic and dysfunctional hilarious family.


That's why I never want to go to my girlfriends house for Christmas, but I end up sitting back with her cousin and laughing at how crazy all the women, of all ages, are when they get together. It's no wonder there are so few men in the family.


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Re: Atheists, Agnostics and Christmas [Re: long_lost_corleone] #525490
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Originally Posted By: long_lost_corleone
My gigantic and dysfunctional hilarious family


The Philadelphia mob?

Re: Atheists, Agnostics and Christmas [Re: long_lost_corleone] #525569
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Originally Posted By: long_lost_corleone
I don't really embrace or celebrate the meaning of Christmas nearly as much as the idea... Which I guess would be to just be a decent person and treat everyone as such, but I think that's something we should all practice everyday.
[Mig]AMEN! clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap [/Mig]


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Re: Atheists, Agnostics and Christmas [Re: Sicilian Babe] #525573
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Capo, I don't understand what the theaters being open has to do with Christianity. I have lots of friends who are Jewish. Are they anti-Christian if they want to go to a movie on Christmas??
A good point, perhaps, but yes. Christianity refers to one god. Jews are as anti-Christian as Atheists.

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Re: Atheists, Agnostics and Christmas [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #525592
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Originally Posted By: Capo de La Cosa Nostra
Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Capo, I don't understand what the theaters being open has to do with Christianity. I have lots of friends who are Jewish. Are they anti-Christian if they want to go to a movie on Christmas??
A good point, perhaps, but yes. Christianity refers to one god. Jews are as anti-Christian as Atheists.


And Jews are polytheistic?? confused Since you're so open to learning, perhaps you should take a theology course.


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Re: Atheists, Agnostics and Christmas [Re: Sicilian Babe] #525641
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Wait... Jews don't believe in Christ being the son of God so that makes them anti-Christian, right? I think what Capo said was correct.


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Re: Atheists, Agnostics and Christmas [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #525676
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Originally Posted By: Capo de La Cosa Nostra
Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Capo, I don't understand what the theaters being open has to do with Christianity. I have lots of friends who are Jewish. Are they anti-Christian if they want to go to a movie on Christmas??
A good point, perhaps, but yes. Christianity refers to one god. Jews are as anti-Christian as Atheists.


What in the world are you talking about?


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Re: Atheists, Agnostics and Christmas [Re: Blibbleblabble] #525679
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No, he originally said that Jews going to the movies on Christmas makes them anti-Christian, which made little or no sense. If I go to the movies on Passover, am I an anti-Semite??

As for the prefix "anti-", it depends on your meaning. It's connotation is quite negative (at least to me) and means that you OPPOSE something, or you are prejudiced against something. I don't think that Jewish people are generally OPPOSED to Christians because they don't share beliefs or go to the movies on Christian holidays.


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Re: Atheists, Agnostics and Christmas [Re: olivant] #525680
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Originally Posted By: Capo de La Cosa Nostra
Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Capo, I don't understand what the theaters being open has to do with Christianity. I have lots of friends who are Jewish. Are they anti-Christian if they want to go to a movie on Christmas??
A good point, perhaps, but yes. Christianity refers to one god. Jews are as anti-Christian as Atheists.


What in the world are you talking about?

Jews and Christians. Or maybe constitution. Or may be gas prices, who knows.

Re: Atheists, Agnostics and Christmas [Re: svsg] #525711
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All of the world's problems are linguistic, it seems.

And SB is right; "anti-" brings negative connotations.

It's not necessarily meant to mean "actively against", here; but different beliefs in the world cannot, by definition, if they want to take themselves seriously, allow for any other theistic possibility. As I said earlier in the thread, theists are self-defeating.

Fall back on the "different strokes for different folks" banality, but that's about as self-dishonest as the belief in the first place.

But maybe that's a linguistic problem in itself; the term "belief" is quite a wooly concept.

At any rate, Merry Christmas; and here's to better gas prices next year.


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Re: Atheists, Agnostics and Christmas [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #525712
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Ah, another post from Capo about how totally superior and cool it is to be without faith, and, apparently, to be him.

Thank you for dropping by to mock the other members of the board for the banality of their posts and, seemingly, their existence.

Without you to shine a light into the darkness of our lives on occasion, think how very sad and empty our lives would be.

Wishing everyone here a lovely holiday season, although, according to Capo, if you don't celebrate Christmas, I, in my self-defeating Christian way, hate you.


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Re: Atheists, Agnostics and Christmas [Re: Sicilian Babe] #525717
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Hate's a strong word. grin


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Re: Atheists, Agnostics and Christmas [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #525866
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Originally Posted By: Capo de La Cosa Nostra
Hate's a strong word. grin


and Love is just a four letter word.....like Hate, but I prefer Love as I'm sure SB does, and I Love her. Peace on Earth, Good Will toward men (and women). And Jesus gave us the eleventh commandment, love one another. What so ever you do for the least of your brothers, that you do unto Me.

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