Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
SB, you're totally avoiding the overall issue here. You're not looking at what I am saying with an open mind.

Generally speaking, Senator Obama talked about CHANGE.

"We need change from tired Washington insiders and Clinton-era retreads"

-Barack Obama during Democratic debates.

He made the statement that I quoted above in a debate with Senator Clinton, in a context which obviously not only meant that this country was tired of the Bush administration, it's people, and it's policies, but that this country was also in need of a change from the Clinton administration, it's people, and it's policies. No matter how you may try to spin it, it's exactly what he said and there's no way around it.


As far as Hillary Clinton goes, well as you indicated to me a few months back how you despise everything that Sarah Palin stands for, well that's exactly how I feel about Hillary Clinton. I totally despise everything that she claims to stand for, and despise her even more for the hypocritical way that she snaked her way into Washington.

But getting back to Presidnet Elect Obama, I said earlier, and as I sincerely mean, I really want him to be a successful President and sincerely hope that his policies and ideas do make things better for all of us.





DC, no matter how many Clintonites are in the Obama White House (no different from the Nixonites/Fordians.Reaganites in Bush Sr. and Dubya's House), and no Carterites because all those Carter people are either dead or in the retirement home (except for Volker of course)...just remember this:

OBAMA is still the boss. Yes his assembled crew so far is impressive, and even some right-wingers like Fred Barnes (yes, THAT Fred Barnes) actually are sort of digging it. Remember, alot of those same folks months ago were preaching weekly of how Obama was a socialist naive liberal muslim terrorist.

Then again, remember when Dubya came into office in 2001? His Cabinet was seen by the media as impressive.

*=Vice-President Dick Cheney was Chief of Staff under Ford and Secretary of Defense under Poppycock.
*=Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was US Ambassador to NATO, Secretary of Defense under Ford, and Special Assistant to President Nixon.
*=Secretary of State Colin Powell was National Security Advisor for Poppycock.
*=NSA Condi Rice was under Poppycock's Director of East European Affairs on the National Security Council.

And so on.

Yet 8 years later, here we are.

Ultimately DC, Obama has campaigned over 16 months to get this elusive gig. Now that's he got it, he's the daddy now, which means fairly or not he'll earn all the praise, and the blame, for what is to come.